F1 current hybrid turbocharger actual weight

[subcritical71]

Which F1 team follows the 'spirit' of the regulations when an advantage can be gained? I bet it's the same as the number of drivers that adhere to the 'gentleman's agreement' when an advantage can be gained.

From your tone (which F1 team follows the 'spirit's of the regulations when an advantage can be gained?) you sounds like harvesting other than when braking is not within the spirits of the hybrid formula but it’s OK as long as one can gain some extra harvesting.

No, it really is a simple question. Which teams will follow the spirit of the regulations when an advantage can be gained that is not against the technical regulations? Think about blown diffusers, steering wheels and when a hole is hole.

[subcritical71]

‘Spirit of the rules’ ‘The aim or purpose of a law when it was written’.

Incorrect, it is the perceived aim or purpose of a law when it was written. You can’t call the literal and perceived Interpretations the same as they can be separate and sometimes opposing interpretations. Unfortunately none of us were present when the rules were drafted to know what the perceived purpose was. We have our own ideas but we cannot know since we were not present. Additionally, those who were present may have had different perceptions of the purpose to said rule.

The aim and purpose behind the introduction of the hybrid power unit.
A turbocharged direct injected fuel load and fuel flow restricted ICE complemented by an ERS energy recovery system consisting of 2 motor generator units that harness waste heat energy (from the turbocharger) and waste kinetic energy (from the braking system). A set of rules/regulations followed the introduction of the above hybrid power unit. ‘The spirit of the rules’ represents the aim or purpose of said rules when written.

Where is this aim or purpose you quoted written or sourced from?

[gruntguru]

Gruntguru finally admitted and wrote (‘extra harvest’ is an even better example of the regulations being stretched to the limit). (I am surprised the FIA approved this). I say the FIA did not and cannot approve any ‘extra’ harvesting.

I have always said the "extra harvest" is a ridiculous workaround.

The point we can gain from the "extra harvest" scenario is:
- The FIA knows about this. The telemetry traces published were released by Honda. The complexity is far beyond anything that could be created by a journalist. The FIA have access to similar data that will confirm it exists and it functions as described.
- The FIA have done nothing to regulate this function.
- The "extra harvest" function is a serious contravention of a clearly written rule (there is a rule that states that harvesting from the MGUK to the ES is limited to 2MJ/lap.)
- MGUK harvesting during non-braking track events (eg lift and coast, or part load where harvesting moves the ICE operating point to a higher thermal efficiency) to make up any shortfall in the 2 MJ/lap limit, does not contravene any written rule. In fact it does not even contravene the spirit of the rules - the primary function of the MGUK remains "to harvest energy during braking".

Don’t mix up the H (connected to the turbo and very unregulated) and K (connected to the crank, very regulated)

Whoops - I've done it again - dyslexia kicking in. Thanks for picking that up.

[aral]

As this topic has been going around in circles for several pages with no actual direction, it has been locked for all to cool down