If this sort of thing is true and accurately reported, as the biggest fan of Ferrari at this website, I have to ask what the F. is going on in Maranello.Xwang wrote: ↑17 Jun 2020, 21:12At the beginning of the year Binotto said that they would have used a pair of weeks just before or after ( I do not remember) the presentation to run dynamic tests on the suspension test rig.
Now it seems that only during testing at Barcellona (or better after it) they discovered excessive torsions of the gearbox.
Shouldn't those issues be evident during a proper done dynamic test on the suspension test rig?
Yep, both senior management, and a large chunk of the fan base seem to have a win now mentality, and it's not doing them any favors.Ringleheim wrote: ↑22 Jun 2020, 19:55I fear a few more years of frustration with Ferrari before they undergo yet another regime change.
He surely told that they would run the engine on the bench directly after presentation (that was the reason they had a relatively early presentation). Haven’t heard about suspension test rig. Are you sure you’re not mixing things up?Xwang wrote: ↑17 Jun 2020, 21:12At the beginning of the year Binotto said that they would have used a pair of weeks just before or after ( I do not remember) the presentation to run dynamic tests on the suspension test rig.
Now it seems that only during testing at Barcellona (or better after it) they discovered excessive torsions of the gearbox.
Shouldn't those issues be evident during a proper done dynamic test on the suspension test rig?
I'm trying to find where I read or heard that, but I clearly remember that he was speaking about suspension test rig because he was saying that they would be able to understand the car better than the previous year with such test.LM10 wrote: ↑22 Jun 2020, 20:13He surely told that they would run the engine on the bench directly after presentation (that was the reason they had a relatively early presentation). Haven’t heard about suspension test rig. Are you sure you’re not mixing things up?Xwang wrote: ↑17 Jun 2020, 21:12At the beginning of the year Binotto said that they would have used a pair of weeks just before or after ( I do not remember) the presentation to run dynamic tests on the suspension test rig.
Now it seems that only during testing at Barcellona (or better after it) they discovered excessive torsions of the gearbox.
Shouldn't those issues be evident during a proper done dynamic test on the suspension test rig?
WHO BRINGS NEW PARTS TO AUSTRIA? Ferrari without major upgrades
The Formula 1 season finally starts on July 5th. Mercedes and Red Bull have upgraded their cars properly. Ferrari, on the other hand, is forgoing major upgrades. Nevertheless, in Maranello they are sure to be able to improve the performance.
It's already a strange season. It starts in the middle of the year, and there are cars on the grid that are already in their second stage of development, although the first one has never raced on the track. We've only got to know them to some extent in the garages in Melbourne.
112 days later, the wheel has continued to turn in the design offices, even though 63 days of that were not allowed to work at all. But whoever could, after the factories opened, worked through the developments that were already in the pipeline for the first four races. Ferrari is surprised that the direct competitors were able to achieve so much in such a short time.
Mercedes, for example, is bringing a major aerodynamic upgrade to the Red Bull Ring. The version that would have run up in Melbourne and was used in the final days of testing in Barcelona corresponds to the development status of Christmas 2019, according to technical director James Allison. In the meantime, a lot has piled up, some of which has been worked off before and after the work stoppage.
Red Bull will also be competing in its home races with a greater evolution, as Sports Director Helmut Marko reveals: "The car in Spielberg will not be identical to the one that would have been driven in Melbourne. We brought the upgrade to the car that was scheduled for the fifth race in Barcelona and a second one now for Spielberg. All based on CFD and wind tunnel. There's a certain amount of uncertainty about that. You go to the third stage without knowing how the first and second updates would have felt in practice. We didn't have a chance to test it, so we have to assume the data is accurate."
Reports about Ferrari upgrades untrue
Ferrari was advertised in the Italian media as a half new SF1000, with a slimmer nose, a stiffer gearbox, new rear axle and 30 hp more from the engine. The raceless time has apparently stimulated the imagination. An upgrade on this scale would not be possible at all or would be completely nonsensical. There Ferrari would have already burned more tokens than allowed and would have committed itself to the engine until the end of the season.
"We only have very small changes to the car. It was more important for us to understand the SF1000 better. We have indeed made a good step forward," confirmed a spokesman. The first significant modifications will probably only be made after the Hungarian GP.
Racing Point has no new parts in its luggage either. "Our big upgrade would have gone in Melbourne. Nothing came to that. The next upgrade is planned for later", reveals technical boss Andy Green. This is also not a cost-cutting measure. Green: "If we'd had more modifications up our sleeve for the first few races, they would have gotten hold of the car. We have total confidence in our tools and don't have to try out the previous modification on the track before we bring the next one to the car. We wouldn't wait."
Small packages at McLaren and Alfa It's the same way
McLaren and Alfa Romeo do it. The cars are no longer on the Melbourne stand in Austria. Alfa Romeo even made the changes that were in the development schedule for the races in Austria and England, despite the short time available. Alpha Tauri has also used the break to further develop its car. The changes were already on the AT01 at the team's film day in Imola.
Haas on the other hand is holding back. Stand Melbourne is Stand Red Bull-Ring. The US racing team is saving. First of all, team boss Guenther Steiner wants to see how the season develops for Haas and how long it lasts. Only then will it be decided whether the development department needs to turbo boost again.
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Phlumbert wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 02:56So apparently no major upgrades now?
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WHO BRINGS NEW PARTS TO AUSTRIA? Ferrari without major upgrades
The Formula 1 season finally starts on July 5th. Mercedes and Red Bull have upgraded their cars properly. Ferrari, on the other hand, is forgoing major upgrades. Nevertheless, in Maranello they are sure to be able to improve the performance.
It's already a strange season. It starts in the middle of the year, and there are cars on the grid that are already in their second stage of development, although the first one has never raced on the track. We've only got to know them to some extent in the garages in Melbourne.
112 days later, the wheel has continued to turn in the design offices, even though 63 days of that were not allowed to work at all. But whoever could, after the factories opened, worked through the developments that were already in the pipeline for the first four races. Ferrari is surprised that the direct competitors were able to achieve so much in such a short time.
Mercedes, for example, is bringing a major aerodynamic upgrade to the Red Bull Ring. The version that would have run up in Melbourne and was used in the final days of testing in Barcelona corresponds to the development status of Christmas 2019, according to technical director James Allison. In the meantime, a lot has piled up, some of which has been worked off before and after the work stoppage.
Red Bull will also be competing in its home races with a greater evolution, as Sports Director Helmut Marko reveals: "The car in Spielberg will not be identical to the one that would have been driven in Melbourne. We brought the upgrade to the car that was scheduled for the fifth race in Barcelona and a second one now for Spielberg. All based on CFD and wind tunnel. There's a certain amount of uncertainty about that. You go to the third stage without knowing how the first and second updates would have felt in practice. We didn't have a chance to test it, so we have to assume the data is accurate."
Reports about Ferrari upgrades untrue
Ferrari was advertised in the Italian media as a half new SF1000, with a slimmer nose, a stiffer gearbox, new rear axle and 30 hp more from the engine. The raceless time has apparently stimulated the imagination. An upgrade on this scale would not be possible at all or would be completely nonsensical. There Ferrari would have already burned more tokens than allowed and would have committed itself to the engine until the end of the season.
"We only have very small changes to the car. It was more important for us to understand the SF1000 better. We have indeed made a good step forward," confirmed a spokesman. The first significant modifications will probably only be made after the Hungarian GP.
Racing Point has no new parts in its luggage either. "Our big upgrade would have gone in Melbourne. Nothing came to that. The next upgrade is planned for later", reveals technical boss Andy Green. This is also not a cost-cutting measure. Green: "If we'd had more modifications up our sleeve for the first few races, they would have gotten hold of the car. We have total confidence in our tools and don't have to try out the previous modification on the track before we bring the next one to the car. We wouldn't wait."
Small packages at McLaren and Alfa It's the same way
McLaren and Alfa Romeo do it. The cars are no longer on the Melbourne stand in Austria. Alfa Romeo even made the changes that were in the development schedule for the races in Austria and England, despite the short time available. Alpha Tauri has also used the break to further develop its car. The changes were already on the AT01 at the team's film day in Imola.
Haas on the other hand is holding back. Stand Melbourne is Stand Red Bull-Ring. The US racing team is saving. First of all, team boss Guenther Steiner wants to see how the season develops for Haas and how long it lasts. Only then will it be decided whether the development department needs to turbo boost again.
Translated with DeepL