Team: Loic Bigois (HA), Simone Resta (HCE), David Sanchez (HA), Corrado Onorato (DCD), Rory Byrne (Tech Advisor), Laurent Mekies (SD), Matteo Togninalli (CRE), Mattia Binotto (TP), John Elkann (Chairman)
Drivers: Sebastian Vettel (5), Charles Leclerc (16)
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That is not too different to last year. The SF90 was fine at high speed (remember S1 in suzuka), it was bad in medium and low speed for the most part though. The SF1000 does have more downforce obviously and eyeballing it, it seems Merc decided to go with less wing for this race, which would explain that
This is what I was thinking myself, could they possibly have made a car that's faster than Mercedes in the corners? I don't believe that, maybe Mercedes have the setup wrong somehow. Need to see this on a more representative track, Hungary should also be very very interesting, that should paint the full picture
Mercedes running less wing this weekend is really interesting to me, they almost never did this last year except at the tracks where it was very very necessary ie Spa, Monza, Azerbaijan. Otherwise they almost always ran with the full wing config. The engine is a big step forward this year so I wonder why they'd run less wing, maybe they made a step in terms of how much DF they get from the floor/diffuser?cokata wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 20:38That is not too different to last year. The SF90 was fine at high speed (remember S1 in suzuka), it was bad in medium and low speed for the most part though. The SF1000 does have more downforce obviously and eyeballing it, it seems Merc decided to go with less wing for this race, which would explain that
How many decades do they need to solve those correlation problems?Ferrari says a correlation problem between the figures seen in simulations and how its SF1000 performed on track left its Formula 1 car aerodynamically 'fragile' in its current spec.
Season 2018, updates didn't work, 3 GPs struggled with them, then Ferrari removed updates - Kimi won US 2018. What the hell they are doing there for so long time with not solved correlation problems? I didn't count but how many times did they bring updates for floor which didn't work as they want? The way I see this is that Hamilton was slightly earlier on the brakes to Vettel (which is understandable given the higher speed he is braking from), ends up slower in the apex, but is also earlier on the power compared to Vettel. So it is probably not about Ferrari being faster in the corners, but rather Hamilton potentially sacrificing some apex speed to get into the power earlier (difference in driving style).
No way I believe any of this when you look at the lap times in the corner it shows how accurate it isjumpingfish wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 16:46SF1000 vs SF90 in FP2
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcAhrdTWsAI ... name=large
from @Fred__18
Yeah, Federico added answer to his post that he was wrong with SF90 lap time, misprintNathanOlder wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 10:16No way I believe any of this when you look at the lap times in the corner it shows how accurate it isjumpingfish wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 16:46SF1000 vs SF90 in FP2
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcAhrdTWsAI ... name=large
from @Fred__18
The Chart says
SF90 - 1.05.924
SF1000 - 1.04.816
Reality
SF90 - 1.05.086
SF1000 - 1.04.961
If you believe the chart, ferrari improved by 1.108
In reality Ferrari improved by 0.125
Simple explanation for that, Merc running lower downforce (the rear and front wing of Merc is lower than their usual size) in relation to Ferrari and that explains earlier breaking, lower corner speed and higher top speede30ernest wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 06:19The way I see this is that Hamilton was slightly earlier on the brakes to Vettel (which is understandable given the higher speed he is braking from), ends up slower in the apex, but is also earlier on the power compared to Vettel. So it is probably not about Ferrari being faster in the corners, but rather Hamilton potentially sacrificing some apex speed to get into the power earlier (difference in driving style).
They said last year that they'd gone for a "down force at all cost" approach. This year's car is more balanced in it's approach to downforce / straight line speed.wowgr8 wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 05:43
Mercedes running less wing this weekend is really interesting to me, they almost never did this last year except at the tracks where it was very very necessary ie Spa, Monza, Azerbaijan. Otherwise they almost always ran with the full wing config. The engine is a big step forward this year so I wonder why they'd run less wing, maybe they made a step in terms of how much DF they get from the floor/diffuser?
I read Binotto said they have got the same engines they had at the time in Australia
Also Fer always gets the worse exit by far, which means they do an early apex. I'm pretty sure they still lose time despite carrying more minimum speedwowgr8 wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 05:43Mercedes running less wing this weekend is really interesting to me, they almost never did this last year except at the tracks where it was very very necessary ie Spa, Monza, Azerbaijan. Otherwise they almost always ran with the full wing config. The engine is a big step forward this year so I wonder why they'd run less wing, maybe they made a step in terms of how much DF they get from the floor/diffuser?cokata wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020, 20:38That is not too different to last year. The SF90 was fine at high speed (remember S1 in suzuka), it was bad in medium and low speed for the most part though. The SF1000 does have more downforce obviously and eyeballing it, it seems Merc decided to go with less wing for this race, which would explain that
Thank you.jumpingfish wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 14:23I read Binotto said they have got the same engines they had at the time in Australia
https://the-race.com/formula-1/renault- ... -upgrades/
I feel Hamilton V-ing the corners would make the biggest difference in the low speed corners but the low(est) speed corners is where the difference is smallest or Hamilton actually gains time on the Ferrarie30ernest wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 06:19
The way I see this is that Hamilton was slightly earlier on the brakes to Vettel (which is understandable given the higher speed he is braking from), ends up slower in the apex, but is also earlier on the power compared to Vettel. So it is probably not about Ferrari being faster in the corners, but rather Hamilton potentially sacrificing some apex speed to get into the power earlier (difference in driving style).
