[ 2020 ] Aston Martin RedBull Racing F1 Team - Honda

[ME4ME]

So far friday and saturday have very much been like pre-season testing; Red Bull has to push to show pace. Mercedes got it naturally, constantly, easily.

Marko can say that they are well prepared for the season, the best in a long time. But honestly this isn't good enough. Mercedes raised the bar yet again and Verstappen isn't going to win a championship this year.

[McMika98]

Since preseason the car has been looking dodgy with a terrible rear, cars like Mclaren are now within catching distance.
As for the championship, its over. 0.6s over such a short lap with 8 corners. The Merc are now much quicker on high spèed corners.

[HPD]

Marko: “The set-up didn't work. Realistically we are two to three tenths of a second behind Mercedes ”

https://www.autobild.de/artikel/formel- ... 31557.html

[McMika98]

"Max Verstappen says balance issues with his Red Bull meant the gap to Mercedes in qualifying for the Austrian Grand Prix was bigger than it should be."

The excuses are coming thick and fast. After 3 practice sessions they still find an optimum setup. Hopefully the team wakes up to the challenge.

[DChemTech]

Since preseason the car has been looking dodgy with a terrible rear, cars like Mclaren are now within catching distance.
As for the championship, its over. 0.6s over such a short lap with 8 corners. The Merc are now much quicker on high spèed corners.

Damn, these threads are more repetitive than disney movies. Don't you ever get tired of declaring the season over before it began, and bashing Red Bull as being completely hopeless year in, year out?
I'm sure most of us would have liked to see a smaller gap. And yes, Mercedes will be a tough cookie to beat - and possibly, even probably, they will win. But that doesn't mean it's cut and dry on day one - nor were previous seasons as hopeless as you made them out to be, a-priori.

[etusch]

So far friday and saturday have very much been like pre-season testing; Red Bull has to push to show pace. Mercedes got it naturally, constantly, easily.

Marko can say that they are well prepared for the season, the best in a long time. But honestly this isn't good enough. Mercedes raised the bar yet again and Verstappen isn't going to win a championship this year.

Max cannot be champion, Mercedes can be champion again. But what is reason to talk like this just after first qualifications. This is something not right to speak even after race.

[wesley123]

So far friday and saturday have very much been like pre-season testing; Red Bull has to push to show pace. Mercedes got it naturally, constantly, easily.

Marko can say that they are well prepared for the season, the best in a long time. But honestly this isn't good enough. Mercedes raised the bar yet again and Verstappen isn't going to win a championship this year.

Max cannot be champion, Mercedes can be champion again. But what is reason to talk like this just after first qualifications. This is something not right to speak even after race.

Due to the close proximity to each other with the first 8 races development becomes much more difficult, as you might be 3 races further in the championship already, where last year you might miss one.

[Sieper]

Imho actually believe they did have an set up issue. And/or Honda may not have allowed full pull yet. That is something I learned postseason happened a lot last year as well. Honda is often (rightly I think) on the cautious side.

RBR is even a bit slower then last year here. I don’t believe that is true. Next week will (Hopefully) see them closer in.

[tangodjango]

Marko: “The set-up didn't work. Realistically we are two to three tenths of a second behind Mercedes ”

https://www.autobild.de/artikel/formel- ... 31557.html

And both Mercedes easily had around two-tenths more to come. Pulling back half a second of development is hard enough to do in a normal season but in a shortened one against the best team with the best aero with the best engine and with DAS to be fully explored, this isn't a good sign after all the bragging and we will beat Mercedes claims.

[etusch]

So far friday and saturday have very much been like pre-season testing; Red Bull has to push to show pace. Mercedes got it naturally, constantly, easily.

Marko can say that they are well prepared for the season, the best in a long time. But honestly this isn't good enough. Mercedes raised the bar yet again and Verstappen isn't going to win a championship this year.

Max cannot be champion, Mercedes can be champion again. But what is reason to talk like this just after first qualifications. This is something not right to speak even after race.

Due to the close proximity to each other with the first 8 races development becomes much more difficult, as you might be 3 races further in the championship already, where last year you might miss one.

Without any development this track may be good for mercedes and after that things can turn for redbull or other one. Still it is open. But mercedes is favorite of course

[McMika98]

Don't you ever get tired of declaring the season over before it began, and bashing Red Bull as being completely hopeless year in, year out?
I'm sure most of us would have liked to see a smaller gap.

First I salute your optimism. But as a race fan, the last 6 years of dullfest that is Hamilton cakewalk has been painful.
I would rephrase the question to you, dont you get tired of watching a procession year after year. The formula 2 races are lot better than f1.

[Sieper]

Mcmika, are you not intentionally trying to provoke here? To me (almost) all your posts seem aimed at that. I try to ignore you as much as possible but it is hard. Whatever gives you pleasure. It is all good.

[godlameroso]

We'll see if starting on the mediums help. I feel the softs will start being slower than the mediums by lap 15. With medium hard you can do a 1 stopper. Everyone else will have to do 2 or struggle at the end.

[Sieper]

Safety cars will be the deciding factor in how that plays out. If there’s a second free pitstop Merc is home free.

[ME4ME]

Max cannot be champion, Mercedes can be champion again. But what is reason to talk like this just after first qualifications. This is something not right to speak even after race.

I'm just disillusioned, disappointed. I of course hope for the best, I'd like to see Red Bull and Max win this year. But if there is one thing I think we all agreed upon was that Red Bull cannot have a weak start to a season again. They might eventually catch up but Mercedes and their drivers are too consistent, they will not throw it away at that point. Realistically Verstappen needs to be consistently within a tenth in qualifying at each track, to be in a sufficienty good position so he can challenge both of the Mercedes drivers. Because that is Mercedes' main advantage against him, they have two drivers to attack with, or one driver to prioritize if it suits them. Of course with all due respect to Albon, who is still finding his place within the team.

Of course you are right, no points have yet be awarded. Tomorrow Red Bull might indeed do better. I hope they can at least follow Mercedes closely without them running away in the distance. Then there might be hope for other tracks to better suit the RB.