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I think I remember how fantastic he was for several teams. Toxic happens when you loose, you loose, you loose and people start pointing fingers. At Ferrari, if they would have managed to win just once. It would have changed everything.
He has a HUGE following.Ground Effect wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 15:22From all indications, Liberty really wanted him back in F1. So I guess it’s possible.
Underwhelming, but he needs a couple more races for me to form a real opinion.
I've listened to many interviews with Toto, as well as with the people working in Mercedes. I think he's a natural leader with excellent management skills who doesn't let his ego get in the way of a good decision. Newey would handle the technical aspect alone, as he does with Red Bull now. Their blameless culture that only focusses on self improvement is what got them so far.
Newey seems to insist on having things his way from what I read, and as you say Toto likes 'collective' decisions, which is what I mean by can not see them getting on well in a team. They seem opposite styles.alexx_88 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 08:06I've listened to many interviews with Toto, as well as with the people working in Mercedes. I think he's a natural leader with excellent management skills who doesn't let his ego get in the way of a good decision. Newey would handle the technical aspect alone, as he does with Red Bull now. Their blameless culture that only focusses on self improvement is what got them so far.
Sorry, but I'm really getting tired of listening to this over and over again. You realize that now he's not the inexperienced youngster you remember and even back then all he wanted was not to be treated unfairly. Anyway, after following him for such long, from his latest interview to Will Buxton, I'm sure that this is a very different, more mature and calm Alonso. I'm sure that he was frustrated before cause he knew his abilities and that he didn't get the chance to translate his skills into success (and on the contrary spent a lot of his time at the back of the grid), but now after being off F1 for a while and succeeding in other categories he feels more fulfilled with himself and that can only make him better since I still believe he got his undisputed skills.
Publicly attacking Honda and pushing McLaren over the edge to go for Renault so he could race for Toyota was indeed the work of an inexperienced youngster in his mid thirties.ALO_Power wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 15:13Sorry, but I'm really getting tired of listening to this over and over again. You realize that now he's not the inexperienced youngster you remember and even back then all he wanted was not to be treated unfairly. Anyway, after following him for such long, from his latest interview to Will Buxton, I'm sure that this is a very different, more mature and calm Alonso. I'm sure that he was frustrated before cause he knew his abilities and that he didn't get the chance to translate his skills into success (and on the contrary spent a lot of his time at the back of the grid), but now after being off F1 for a while and succeeding in other categories he feels more fulfilled with himself and that can only make him better since I still believe he got his undisputed skills.
6 tenths according to him
Yeah, right. He publicly attacked Honda in 2015 to race for Toyota in WEC in 2018. What do you think he is? Thanos? Even he doesn’t make such long term plansJolle wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 18:00
Publicly attacking Honda and pushing McLaren over the edge to go for Renault so he could race for Toyota was indeed the work of an inexperienced youngster in his mid thirties.
Nice to have Alonso back, he's a great driver but I expect more that Renault will leave F1 in 2023 (again) then a boost in performance and a return to the front.
