What's the reason you thought that?raymondu999 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 10:29I always thought Luis was kind of a proxy for Flav. No?Andres125sx wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 08:12No, he´s not. It´s Luis Garcia Abad at least since his Ferrari days
What's the reason you thought that?raymondu999 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 10:29I always thought Luis was kind of a proxy for Flav. No?Andres125sx wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 08:12No, he´s not. It´s Luis Garcia Abad at least since his Ferrari days
Something about flavio being banned for life (at one time)?Andres125sx wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 11:41What's the reason you thought that?raymondu999 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 10:29I always thought Luis was kind of a proxy for Flav. No?Andres125sx wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 08:12
No, he´s not. It´s Luis Garcia Abad at least since his Ferrari days
I mean. Fernando has maintained that hes still friends with Flav - hence obviously he doesnt mind still using Flav as a manager - and Luis Abad just happened to appear as Flav got banned from F1Andres125sx wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 11:41What's the reason you thought that?raymondu999 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 10:29I always thought Luis was kind of a proxy for Flav. No?Andres125sx wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 08:12
No, he´s not. It´s Luis Garcia Abad at least since his Ferrari days
Banned from F1 does not mean he cannot be a manager, do it?raymondu999 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 15:14I mean. Fernando has maintained that hes still friends with Flav - hence obviously he doesnt mind still using Flav as a manager - and Luis Abad just happened to appear as Flav got banned from F1
from the news 11 years ago:Andres125sx wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 17:48Banned from F1 does not mean he cannot be a manager, do it?raymondu999 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 15:14I mean. Fernando has maintained that hes still friends with Flav - hence obviously he doesnt mind still using Flav as a manager - and Luis Abad just happened to appear as Flav got banned from F1
Didn´t know that, thanksJolle wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 17:57from the news 11 years ago:Andres125sx wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 17:48Banned from F1 does not mean he cannot be a manager, do it?raymondu999 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 15:14
I mean. Fernando has maintained that hes still friends with Flav - hence obviously he doesnt mind still using Flav as a manager - and Luis Abad just happened to appear as Flav got banned from F1
Although unable to take action against Briatore personally, after he left Renault last week, the 26-member WMSC said it would not sanction any event involving him "in any capacity whatsoever".
It also said it would refuse to renew licences to any driver associated with Briatore in any capacity, meaning that all those managed by him will have to extricate themselves from their contracts. They include Alonso, Piquet, Mark Webber and Heikki Kovalainen.
Yes, I saw that in 2012 at Brazil.Manoah2u wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 02:51It's not like Seb is scot free at Ferrari though.Schuttelberg wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 23:11I think the approach from Vettel is correct. I don't really think there's any need to rush. Having followed him from his beginning, I know he wouldn't want to just participate. If the case was so, he would have dropped such hints at Maranello and taken a nice pay along with all the perks of being in red. Ferrari has a short term history of being impatient with the world champions and a lack of impatience with their bridesmaids, so to speak.
The first thing Sebastian needs to do is to finish this season well. He might not get a podium and that's fine but he must restore some faith in the paddock and even fans like me for that matter that he has the consistency needed to be a champion again. F1 is fickle and I don't really care if he's scrapping for 10th but he must get the max out of it. To sight an example, Button in his retirement year.
From a RBR point of view, it's bananas to even entertain thoughts of dropping Albon to the junior squad. He's started the season with a bang and he really had the first race won. The media is so full of sh!t that they only look at results. Bottas' pace in the race was awful to be honest and in a 'normal' race he would have been P3 and if he had one of his days even P4. But, on paper he won so the media is all 3.0
Alex deserves a chance and Max is the best driver on the grid in terms of absolute package (includes age factor in the sense he will be around for 10 years min). Vettel will only be an insurance policy for RedBull and for any top running team right now. It's sad, but it is what it is.
He has caused most mayhem of any Ferrari drivers in the past decades, which cost them lots of points,
and might even have cost them potential championships. He also 'damaged' relations between Ferrari and FIA with his Charlie Whiting outings and his famous charge into Hamilton at Baku.
Vettel caused enough to have Ferrari concider his position the way they did,
something Raikkonen never actually did in such fashion, and if we look at Raikkonen, Ferrari has been pretty 'loyal' there when they could have went a gazillion of directions instead.
Vettel is aging and his quality is 'fading'. He hasn't got too much to slam on the table. Even Mercedes has not went for the option, which is something interesting to say just as well. Vettel left RBR in the cold, not unlike Rosberg did to Mercedes. Vettel has already started the season bad when Charles actually ended up P2. At a time where it never has been any more important for a Ferrari driver to wring the most out of a car, Vettel once again comes short, he doesn't really work that well under pressure.
No he didn't, he crashed into Senna and then passed a bunch of back markers, nothing special there.NathanOlder wrote: ↑11 Jul 2020, 00:05Seb certainly did an amazing job that day recovering after he almost threw it all away. But I feel there is more on the 'cracked under pressure' list than there is on the 'excelled under pressure' list when it comes to seb.
Did he? Didnt Senna crash into him? Still no small feat to get backENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑11 Jul 2020, 06:00No he didn't, he crashed into Senna and then passed a bunch of back markers, nothing special there.NathanOlder wrote: ↑11 Jul 2020, 00:05Seb certainly did an amazing job that day recovering after he almost threw it all away. But I feel there is more on the 'cracked under pressure' list than there is on the 'excelled under pressure' list when it comes to seb.
Vettel made the mistake and closed the inside line without knowing Senna was there and that is why he crashed...it was purely Vettel's faultENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑11 Jul 2020, 06:00No he didn't, he crashed into Senna and then passed a bunch of back markers, nothing special there.NathanOlder wrote: ↑11 Jul 2020, 00:05Seb certainly did an amazing job that day recovering after he almost threw it all away. But I feel there is more on the 'cracked under pressure' list than there is on the 'excelled under pressure' list when it comes to seb.
100% Vettel's fault, as usualPyrone89 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2020, 18:33Did he? Didnt Senna crash into him? Still no small feat to get backENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑11 Jul 2020, 06:00No he didn't, he crashed into Senna and then passed a bunch of back markers, nothing special there.NathanOlder wrote: ↑11 Jul 2020, 00:05Seb certainly did an amazing job that day recovering after he almost threw it all away. But I feel there is more on the 'cracked under pressure' list than there is on the 'excelled under pressure' list when it comes to seb.
Interesting pics of Vettel and Toto in conversation after quallyJust_a_fan wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 15:28Looks increasingly like Vettel is going to be out of F1 next season. Perhaps a sabbatical and then try to return? Or more likely retire from F1 and either stay home with the family or go to sportscars for a LeMans attempt?
Daimler CEO already said they are sticking with Hamilton and BottasENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑11 Jul 2020, 20:30Interesting pics of Vettel and Toto in conversation after quallyJust_a_fan wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 15:28Looks increasingly like Vettel is going to be out of F1 next season. Perhaps a sabbatical and then try to return? Or more likely retire from F1 and either stay home with the family or go to sportscars for a LeMans attempt?