2020 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 10-12 July

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Re: 2020 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 10-12 July

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NathanOlder wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:12
Davidson and Chandhok were just looking at Lewis' last lap, ad Max's lap before he spun. On the Exit of turn 8, Lewis was 6 tenths up.
Max was 6 tenths up on Lewis's previous lap, which was 8 tenths slower than Lewis final lap
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ENGINE TUNER wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:16
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11 Jul 2020, 17:12
Wow for once great analysis with Karen & Ant on the skypad
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ENGINE TUNER wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:12
Phil wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:06
Wouldnt it be safer for Hamilton to start on softs to protect his position at the start? If Verstappen goes for softs and Hamilton mediums, they might lose P1. Sure they can go longer, but if there is another safety car mid race, it will neutralize any benefit of starting on mediums and track position will be key.
I was thinking similarly.
Assuming no safety cars at inopportune moments or a poor start, if last week is anything to go by if he makes it round turn 1 in the lead, he’ll be able to just drive off into the distance.

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siskue2005 wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:17
NathanOlder wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:12
Davidson and Chandhok were just looking at Lewis' last lap, ad Max's lap before he spun. On the Exit of turn 8, Lewis was 6 tenths up.
He was 6 tenths up on Lewis's previous lap, which was 8 tenths slower than his final lap
No, they said they had the onboard of the final lap for each driver.
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This shows a. the Mercedes is the best car. Just look at how smooth it drives even in the rain. b. Bottas should be ashamed and will never be WDC c. Hamilton is a superb driver and one of the all-time greats d. Red Bull with all their talk is not anywhere close to Mercedes when it matters.
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Moore77 wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:16
Two losers driving for Racing Point. It's so unfortunate for them.
Maybe last years Merc was bad in the wet. Look at Hockenheim, both drivers crashed in the wet. :wink:
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Disappointing performance from Albon, Kvyat, Ricciardo and Gio. Specially Gio who's crash meant Kimi slowed down and his parking skills cost Kimi another fast lap. Albon was invisible blaming car balance from lap. Ricciardo looked like a rookie. Kvyat went on the throttle like it's dry causing wheelspin.
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NathanOlder wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:18
siskue2005 wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:17
NathanOlder wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:12
Davidson and Chandhok were just looking at Lewis' last lap, ad Max's lap before he spun. On the Exit of turn 8, Lewis was 6 tenths up.
He was 6 tenths up on Lewis's previous lap, which was 8 tenths slower than his final lap
No, they said they had the onboard of the final lap for each driver.
Yep and with frame rates being exact they can work out time by how many frames he was behind.

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ENGINE TUNER wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:12
Phil wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:06
Wouldnt it be safer for Hamilton to start on softs to protect his position at the start? If Verstappen goes for softs and Hamilton mediums, they might lose P1. Sure they can go longer, but if there is another safety car mid race, it will neutralize any benefit of starting on mediums and track position will be key.
I was thinking similarly.
Don't forget if you start on the softs you eventually have to run a harder compound(mediums). Any ground you might make up at the start will be eaten away at the end when those that switch to the soft will be able to push them harder and longer because they have less fuel onboard.
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dans79 wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:20
ENGINE TUNER wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:12
Phil wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:06
Wouldnt it be safer for Hamilton to start on softs to protect his position at the start? If Verstappen goes for softs and Hamilton mediums, they might lose P1. Sure they can go longer, but if there is another safety car mid race, it will neutralize any benefit of starting on mediums and track position will be key.
I was thinking similarly.
Don't forget if you start on the softs you eventually have to run a harder compound(mediums). Any ground you might make up at the start will be eaten away at the end when those that switch to the soft will be able to push them harder and longer because they have less fuel onboard.
And soft's last a lot longer at the end because the car is lighter.
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dans79 wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:20
ENGINE TUNER wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:12
Phil wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:06
Wouldnt it be safer for Hamilton to start on softs to protect his position at the start? If Verstappen goes for softs and Hamilton mediums, they might lose P1. Sure they can go longer, but if there is another safety car mid race, it will neutralize any benefit of starting on mediums and track position will be key.
I was thinking similarly.
Don't forget if you start on the softs you eventually have to run a harder compound(mediums). Any ground you might make up at the start will be eaten away at the end when those that switch to the soft will be able to push them harder and longer because they have less fuel onboard.
And a safety car at any time pretty much helps the Medium to Soft runners.
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Ant and chandock analysis. Lew vs max.. Lew has tighter line and better gearshift choices. Different leagues in experience. But both very talented. Max will get there. Very good driving by him.
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Silent Storm wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:19
Disappointing performance from Albon, Kvyat, Ricciardo and Gio. Specially Gio who's crash meant Kimi slowed down and his parking skills cost Kimi another fast lap. Albon was invisible blaming car balance from lap. Ricciardo looked like a rookie. Kvyat went on the throttle like it's dry causing wheelspin.
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NathanOlder wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:19
Moore77 wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:16
Two losers driving for Racing Point. It's so unfortunate for them.
Maybe last years Merc was bad in the wet. Look at Hockenheim, both drivers crashed in the wet. :wink:
Did you notice mercedes tyre after parking? Nobody's tyre was that hot. Lewis along with his natural skills has found some unique way to use DAS to keep temperature in the tyres. It's a myth that he just gets in the car and drives it wheels off.
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Re: 2020 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 10-12 July

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dans79 wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:20
ENGINE TUNER wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:12
Phil wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:06
Wouldnt it be safer for Hamilton to start on softs to protect his position at the start? If Verstappen goes for softs and Hamilton mediums, they might lose P1. Sure they can go longer, but if there is another safety car mid race, it will neutralize any benefit of starting on mediums and track position will be key.
I was thinking similarly.
Don't forget if you start on the softs you eventually have to run a harder compound(mediums). Any ground you might make up at the start will be eaten away at the end when those that switch to the soft will be able to push them harder and longer because they have less fuel onboard.
Yes, if on track by yourself, medium/soft would be the fastest strategy, but being in traffic by having the slower starting tires can slow you down alot.

Another thing to consider is that starting on softs would make you pit earlier, putting you into traffic when you do pit, especially if everyone else starts on mediums and hards.

Starting on mediums, and losing positions on the start could put you in enough traffic to lower the medium tire life to be the same as the softs in clean air.

Tough decision