2020 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 10-12 July

[Pyrone89]

Why should Merc suffer for incompetence from other teams whom have same or even more budget than Mercedes??
It is other's incompetence, why should Merc suffer for other's entertainment?

If anything other teams who have similar or even more budget should work harder to catch Merc, rather than Merc artificially creating drama

Artificial drama? Having two good drivers is actual drama. As opposed to their articifial weekly radio-based soap series about how much they are struggling and how close it was.

And it is in Mercedes' interest because ultimately it is a marketing exercise for them. And having 2 top dogs making it interesting is good for their TV-coverage and goodwill.

They don't care what you think, or any of Max's fans either. They what drivers in the car that can ensure a WCC & WDC, no more no less. Anyone who has any knowledge of Formula 1 history would know that two top tier drivers in the same team never works out well.

Not just Max' fans. They are losing TV-time and goodwill because the director will not show them when there way better nr.1 is 20 seconds in front.

[Silent Storm]

Would it? Mercedes with Verstappen (the only driver than can challenge them if RB and Honda had bothered to make a better car and engine instead of assuming Merc would not improve much further) is scott free as it is. And they risk losing TV-time because everyone is sick of their dominance (apart from LH and Merc fans of course). This way they will still secure both titles (even easier) AND get massive TV-attention and goodwill (remember, F1 is marketing for them) for at least making it an interesting battle. Instead of the 'outspend to win' and 'grey corporate team with nr. 1 and 2'. For LH it is also good because he may be a 7 or 8 times WDC after next year, but it will always be associated by having a dominant car for an unprecedented time -7 years as opposed to Schumacher's 2 year- while his main rivals had way inferior material. Win win win as I see it.

Why should Merc suffer for incompetence from other teams whom have same or even more budget than Mercedes??
It is other's incompetence, why should Merc suffer for other's entertainment?

If anything other teams who have similar or even more budget should work harder to catch Merc, rather than Merc artificially creating drama

Artificial drama? Having two good drivers is actual drama. As opposed to their articifial weekly radio-based soap series about how much they are struggling and how close it was.

And it is in Mercedes' interest because ultimately it is a marketing exercise for them. And having 2 top dogs making it interesting is good for their TV-coverage and goodwill. To re-itterate. Is there anyone here actually believing some team other than Mercedes, and due to their driver choices by extension Hamilton, is taking the 2020 and 2021 titles?

You mean what happened at Ferrari last year? I get your point from a fan's perspective but when a team spends 400+ million they want safe, boring, consistent performance with zero drama and negative media attention.

[Restomaniac]

Why should Merc suffer for incompetence from other teams whom have same or even more budget than Mercedes??
It is other's incompetence, why should Merc suffer for other's entertainment?

If anything other teams who have similar or even more budget should work harder to catch Merc, rather than Merc artificially creating drama

Artificial drama? Having two good drivers is actual drama. As opposed to their articifial weekly radio-based soap series about how much they are struggling and how close it was.

And it is in Mercedes' interest because ultimately it is a marketing exercise for them. And having 2 top dogs making it interesting is good for their TV-coverage and goodwill.

They don't care what you think, or any of Max's fans either. They what drivers in the car that can ensure a WCC & WDC, no more no less. Anyone who has any knowledge of Formula 1 history would know that two top tier drivers in the same team never works out well.

Exactly. Hell you’ve only got to go back and look over the last 12 months at Ferrari to see that, the last 3 years at RedBull, etc.

[siskue2005]

Artificial drama? Having two good drivers is actual drama. As opposed to their articifial weekly radio-based soap series about how much they are struggling and how close it was.

And it is in Mercedes' interest because ultimately it is a marketing exercise for them. And having 2 top dogs making it interesting is good for their TV-coverage and goodwill.

LOL, Havent Merc achieved their objectives in the last 4 years with their current line up?
havent they won everything? Dont they have good TV coverage and PR already?? Dont they have more than enough sponsors and best team?

Why the need to create artificial drama with Verstappen? Perhaps you mean Verstappen will crash more and spin more in Qualifying? Yes that might create more drama

Or Hamilton will crash in a rain race like in Germany?

See, you bait, you get a response.

Time you get a job

The same race Max spun two times?

[214270]

From what I’ve previously read VER had his chance at a Merc drive; he chose RB.

[Pyrone89]

Why should Merc suffer for incompetence from other teams whom have same or even more budget than Mercedes??
It is other's incompetence, why should Merc suffer for other's entertainment?

If anything other teams who have similar or even more budget should work harder to catch Merc, rather than Merc artificially creating drama

Artificial drama? Having two good drivers is actual drama. As opposed to their articifial weekly radio-based soap series about how much they are struggling and how close it was.

And it is in Mercedes' interest because ultimately it is a marketing exercise for them. And having 2 top dogs making it interesting is good for their TV-coverage and goodwill. To re-itterate. Is there anyone here actually believing some team other than Mercedes, and due to their driver choices by extension Hamilton, is taking the 2020 and 2021 titles?

You mean what happened at Ferrari last year? I get your point from a fan's perspective but when a team spends 400+ million they want safe, boring, consistent performance with zero drama and negative media attention.

Well, if not Verstappen (I acknowledge your point) then at least Russell. So the middle ground.

[dans79]

Artificial drama? Having two good drivers is actual drama. As opposed to their articifial weekly radio-based soap series about how much they are struggling and how close it was.

And it is in Mercedes' interest because ultimately it is a marketing exercise for them. And having 2 top dogs making it interesting is good for their TV-coverage and goodwill.

They don't care what you think, or any of Max's fans either. They what drivers in the car that can ensure a WCC & WDC, no more no less. Anyone who has any knowledge of Formula 1 history would know that two top tier drivers in the same team never works out well.

Not just Max' fans. They are losing TV-time and goodwill because the director will not show them when there way better nr.1 is 20 seconds in front.

Losing some are time here and there means a lot less than being able to roll Hamilton out in every marketing campaign under the sun.

[El Scorchio]

In fact, I suppose it’s possible Hamilton wins this year and next, retires, and then Russell steps on and carries right on where Hamilton left off. Could be that Verstappen never wins a world title.

[Pyrone89]

They don't care what you think, or any of Max's fans either. They what drivers in the car that can ensure a WCC & WDC, no more no less. Anyone who has any knowledge of Formula 1 history would know that two top tier drivers in the same team never works out well.

Not just Max' fans. They are losing TV-time and goodwill because the director will not show them when there way better nr.1 is 20 seconds in front.

Losing some are time here and there means a lot less than being able to roll Hamilton out in every marketing campaign under the sun.

So we agree that just like RB is fully focused on Verstappen, Mercedes is fully focused on Hamilton? Because that somehow gets denied alot around here.

[ENGINE TUNER]

Artificial drama? Having two good drivers is actual drama. As opposed to their articifial weekly radio-based soap series about how much they are struggling and how close it was.

And it is in Mercedes' interest because ultimately it is a marketing exercise for them. And having 2 top dogs making it interesting is good for their TV-coverage and goodwill.

LOL, Havent Merc achieved their objectives in the last 4 years with their current line up?
havent they won everything? Dont they have good TV coverage and PR already?? Dont they have more than enough sponsors and best team?

Why the need to create artificial drama with Verstappen? Perhaps you mean Verstappen will crash more and spin more in Qualifying? Yes that might create more drama

Or Hamilton will crash in a rain race like in Germany under waved yellow flags?

See, you bait, you get a response.

Time you get a job

Everyone on slicks in that section had trouble, Verstappen spun before he could slide off in Germany 19.

[Pyrone89]

In fact, I suppose it’s possible Hamilton wins this year and next, retires, and then Russell steps on and carries right on where Hamilton left off. Could be that Verstappen never wins a world title.

I think that is very possible as long as he is stubborn enough to not see RB is never going to get near a WDC again.

He might indeed go the Stirling Moss route.

[Restomaniac]

Why should Merc suffer for incompetence from other teams whom have same or even more budget than Mercedes??
It is other's incompetence, why should Merc suffer for other's entertainment?

If anything other teams who have similar or even more budget should work harder to catch Merc, rather than Merc artificially creating drama

Artificial drama? Having two good drivers is actual drama. As opposed to their articifial weekly radio-based soap series about how much they are struggling and how close it was.

And it is in Mercedes' interest because ultimately it is a marketing exercise for them. And having 2 top dogs making it interesting is good for their TV-coverage and goodwill. To re-itterate. Is there anyone here actually believing some team other than Mercedes, and due to their driver choices by extension Hamilton, is taking the 2020 and 2021 titles?

You mean what happened at Ferrari last year? I get your point from a fan's perspective but when a team spends 400+ million they want safe, boring, consistent performance with zero drama and negative media attention.

Exactly. Teams don’t want to pay silly money for things like Vettel/LeClerc in Brazil, Verstappen/Ricciardo in Baku or going back far further a rather famous and embarrassing episode that still makes McLaren look silly all these years later. Prost/Senna in Japan. Mercedes are walking titles, why the hell would they pay extra for that kind of problem?

[Pyrone89]

LOL, Havent Merc achieved their objectives in the last 4 years with their current line up?
havent they won everything? Dont they have good TV coverage and PR already?? Dont they have more than enough sponsors and best team?

Why the need to create artificial drama with Verstappen? Perhaps you mean Verstappen will crash more and spin more in Qualifying? Yes that might create more drama

Or Hamilton will crash in a rain race like in Germany under waved yellow flags?

See, you bait, you get a response.

Time you get a job

Everyone on slicks in that section had trouble, Verstappen spun before he could slide off in Germany 19.

So did others today in the last turn.

[Silent Storm]

Artificial drama? Having two good drivers is actual drama. As opposed to their articifial weekly radio-based soap series about how much they are struggling and how close it was.

And it is in Mercedes' interest because ultimately it is a marketing exercise for them. And having 2 top dogs making it interesting is good for their TV-coverage and goodwill. To re-itterate. Is there anyone here actually believing some team other than Mercedes, and due to their driver choices by extension Hamilton, is taking the 2020 and 2021 titles?

You mean what happened at Ferrari last year? I get your point from a fan's perspective but when a team spends 400+ million they want safe, boring, consistent performance with zero drama and negative media attention.

Well, if not Verstappen (I acknowledge your point) then at least Russell. So the middle ground.

Russell is good when it comes to having mental stability and maturity. Performance is unknown vs Kubica and now rookie Latifi. Putting pressure on him this early with basically no experience will end up like Max vs Gasly. Also racing against experience drivers ruins careers. Alonso vs Vandoorne and Raikkonen vs Gio for example.

[El Scorchio]

In fact, I suppose it’s possible Hamilton wins this year and next, retires, and then Russell steps on and carries right on where Hamilton left off. Could be that Verstappen never wins a world title.

I think that is very possible as long as he is stubborn enough to not see RB is never going to get near a WDC again.

He might indeed go the Stirling Moss route.

Can’t see him ever being talked about in the same breath as someone like Sir Stirling Moss to be fair.