2020 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 10-12 July

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Just_a_fan wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 10:51
Lando Norris's onboard for the final two laps overtaking the RPs. Good work by the engineer helping him with the car management etc. Excellent example of the team work required to race a modern F1 car.

https://youtu.be/np8TpBjKziQ
Thank you for the link. The narrative is always 'it's all about the drivers' so it's great to see something that shows closer to the reality.

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I think Max is annoyed because he could have finished second if it weren't for the front wing damage most likely. He probably ran wide and hit a curb so it's his own fault.
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RZS10 wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 01:01
I hate the liveries of Williams/Alpha Tauri and Alfa Romeo/Haas ... from certain cameras it's hard to tell them apart, not that it matters but it's still annoying.
This ^^^

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Bsowles wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 12:08
RZS10 wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 01:01
I hate the liveries of Williams/Alpha Tauri and Alfa Romeo/Haas ... from certain cameras it's hard to tell them apart, not that it matters but it's still annoying.
This ^^^
Not keen on the liveries, but what I really dislike, to the extent of gritting my teeth when I see it, is the Alfa Romeo advert that is on hundreds of times per event on Sky F1. It drives me nuts. the worst advert I have ever seen (and there have been some corkers)
I like to think I do not 'hate' any one or any thing, but this comes close
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Big Tea wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 12:12
Bsowles wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 12:08
RZS10 wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 01:01
I hate the liveries of Williams/Alpha Tauri and Alfa Romeo/Haas ... from certain cameras it's hard to tell them apart, not that it matters but it's still annoying.
This ^^^
Not keen on the liveries, but what I really dislike, to the extent of gritting my teeth when I see it, is the Alfa Romeo advert that is on hundreds of times per event on Sky F1. It drives me nuts. the worst advert I have ever seen (and there have been some corkers)
I like to think I do not 'hate' any one or any thing, but this comes close
I used to REALLY hate the DHL sponsorship bumps. The script for those was terrible. Clearly written, produced and approved by someone with no clue about F1.

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Big Tea wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 12:12
Bsowles wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 12:08
RZS10 wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 01:01
I hate the liveries of Williams/Alpha Tauri and Alfa Romeo/Haas ... from certain cameras it's hard to tell them apart, not that it matters but it's still annoying.
This ^^^
Not keen on the liveries, but what I really dislike, to the extent of gritting my teeth when I see it, is the Alfa Romeo advert that is on hundreds of times per event on Sky F1. It drives me nuts. the worst advert I have ever seen (and there have been some corkers)
I like to think I do not 'hate' any one or any thing, but this comes close
Not sure what annoys me most, the bloody Shirley Bassey song, or the annoying "When I race, I take my time...."
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Wynters wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 11:09
Just_a_fan wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 10:51
Lando Norris's onboard for the final two laps overtaking the RPs. Good work by the engineer helping him with the car management etc. Excellent example of the team work required to race a modern F1 car.

https://youtu.be/np8TpBjKziQ
Thank you for the link. The narrative is always 'it's all about the drivers' so it's great to see something that shows closer to the reality.
Impressive how he executes...perfect behavior between Stroll and Ric, smart against Stroll, perfect reaction against Perez and very clean laps.
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Mugello has its own topic.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=29126

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komninosm wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 01:00
ENGINE TUNER wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 00:10
komninosm wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 22:12


Exactly. The tires should degrade, they should not overheat. Let them push when they want and for how long they want.
Also the fuel limit makes teams cruise a lot too. We need to bring refueling back during pit stops as this will make strategies with more pit stops much stronger without idiotic artificial requirements for pitting 2 times or whatever.
No, no, no. Most teams are under fueled, they don't fill up the cars, the race fuel limit is not any type of problem and refueling is the worst thing F1 could reintroduce.

We don't need more pit stops, we need more on track action/battles. If anything we need the 2005 tires back. I'd rather watch side by side racing rather than F1 cars at the pit speed limit.
They don't fill up the cars because they cannot use the extra fuel, because the tires overheat. It's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Also filling up the whole fuel load would make the car heavy and slow (and is bad on tires too). While half-filling up during pit stops would not have that problem. You would use your whole fuel allotment too.
So Refueling is far from the worst thing F1 could reintroduce. How about grooved tires? Ugly and stupid.

"We don't need more pit stops" is just your opinion. Some people do enjoy the strategy part of F1 too, not just the racing on track. Besides, this will also give you more on track action/battles as the cars will be on different strategies and have to overtake more (and it will be easier too). Less processions.
F1 cars at pit speed limit is grossly overstated by you. It will just be 20 more seconds per car in a 2 hour race. And the race will be much better.

The other idea I had to allow for more pit-stop strategies to not suck (and not be used by the vast majority of cars as now), is to shorten pit entries/exits. Make the pit stops less time consuming and then the speed gains will be more appetizing.
The current cars don't use much fuel, Merc are winning most races with about 90-95kg of fuel. Even if they did allow refueling there would still only be 1 stop races. Nothing can change until the tires improve.

The strategy should be... go fast, I get no pleasure watching the fastest race cars in the world trundling down the pit lane at 60kph. The days of refueling in F1 were horrible, bo on track battles, cars on different sides if the track battling each other on the stopwatch rather than wheel to wheel. F1 should never ever go back to that bs.
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Hamilton wins dominantly on one of his "worst" tracks!

And then we have Hungary and a Silverstone double-header! Hmmm... :oops:
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AMG.Tzan wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 15:58
Hamilton wins dominantly on one of his "worst" tracks!

And then we have Hungary and a Silverstone double-header! Hmmm... :oops:
Things don't always go to plan!

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I still dont know how to feel about the racing incident with Vettel. I keep drafting an opinion but the more i think about the more it just doesnt seem fair. Im not a Vettel fan but i just couldnt enjoy this race because of it.
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El Scorchio wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 15:59
AMG.Tzan wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 15:58
Hamilton wins dominantly on one of his "worst" tracks!

And then we have Hungary and a Silverstone double-header! Hmmm... :oops:
Things don't always go to plan!
True! :lol: :lol:
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Phlumbert wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 06:46
dans79 wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 04:22
I just watched the sit down post race interview, and Max sounds like he's ready to give up on the rest of the season.
It seems like the W11 has a significant tire life advantage over the RB-16 right now. Some of that might be down to the cooler temps and setup but I think the fact the Lewis was able to punch in the fastest lap (at the time) on 35 lap old mediums was a good sign of Merc's advantage.
DAS + RearSteer. Im sure it was the point of both developments, and now they get to reap the rewards.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
13 Jul 2020, 10:51
Lando Norris's onboard for the final two laps overtaking the RPs. Good work by the engineer helping him with the car management etc. Excellent example of the team work required to race a modern F1 car.

https://youtu.be/np8TpBjKziQ
Incredible how much better his Engineer is compared to Bono and his stupid ININININ and always giving the wrong information at the wrong time.