[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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I agree as long as McLaren minimize their DNFs they'll be hard to get ahead of by the likes of Ferrari and Renault.

Ironically, Renault not making any PU mods means a much lower chance of DNFs caused by PU failure.

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Will be good to have a strong qualifying car here. Passing will be difficult

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not having a very fast FP1..anyone knows what programe are we running?

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genarro wrote:
17 Jul 2020, 12:09
not having a very fast FP1..anyone knows what programe are we running?
Due to possible rain, it was important to gather as much data as possible on all 3 sets of tires. Also, FP1 is never a indication of pace, FP2 if dry, should give you more clear picture of where the car stands in performance, but still it can vary depending on the conditions on qualy/race day.
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And haven't Tracing Point been faster than McLaren in all three FP1s so far? Yet McLaren are still ahead in the points?

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genarro wrote:
17 Jul 2020, 12:09
not having a very fast FP1..anyone knows what programe are we running?
Mclaren haven't really gone into P1 this year and tried to set fast times, the first Austrian race was a surprise to most after the practise sessions.
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McLaren the first team to commit to signing new concorde agreement.
They sure are keen :) =D> =D>

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15062 ... -f1-future

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Albert Fabrega

Max speed on main straigh trap:

Pérez 309 km/h
Leclerc 308
Bot 307
Str 306
Vers 306
Kvy 305
Ham 304
Lat 303
Sai 302
Gio 301
Mag 301
Vet 301
Nor 301
Gro 301
Rus 301
Ric 300
Kub 299
Oco 296
Alb 295

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Quick shout back to Styria.

Each of the drivers had two significant stints:-
1) Once Sainz had been passed by Albon, Sainz had 23 laps at an average lap time of 1:09.65. He finished with a final 5-lap avg of 1:09.35 and pitted on lap 32. He had started losing time on his last two laps. I suspect he was trying to clear the Grosjean/Raikonnen/Kvyat/Gio battle from his pit window but couldn't quite manage it.
1) Once Stroll passed Norris he found himself stuck in the Ocon train. He traded places with Perez and Gasly but it didn't really matter as Ocon was holding all of them up. This didn't seem to be too much of an issue though as, once Ocon pitted on lap 26, Norris' pace remained consistent, sitting a couple of seconds back from Perez. In light of this, I've included the traffic period in his first stint meaning that Norris did 33 laps with a 1:09.74 average, finishing on a 5-lap 1:09.26 average when he pitted on lap 39.

2) Sainz comes out in traffic but it quickly clears leaving his second stint pretty unobstructed. Over the next 28 laps he averages a 1:08.57, finishing with a 1:08.12 (this is excluding the lap Norris passed him which saw a 1:09.85 from Sainz).
2) Norris comes out and is pretty clear until he reaches Sainz and then onto the end. This 31 lap stint was averaged at 1:08.0 with a final five laps of 1:07.4 or 1:07.9 (if you use the final 3 laps of squabbling). I've also excluded the lap he passed Sainz (which cost him almost a second).

Both drivers had a surprising amount of time in clear air (although I suspect Norris' strategy was dictated by being stuck behind the Ocon train for most of his first stint). Sainz commented after the race that trying to clear the traffic after his stop destroyed his tyres but I'm not wholly convinced. He cleared most of the traffic within 4 laps and barely sniffed the Racing points (overall, he spent four laps within 2-seconds of either Racing point and never within 1 second of them). The botched stop really didn't help but he was going to come out into traffic regardless. I feel it was a poor race from Sainz after a great qualifying.

Norris, on the other hand, seemed comfortable managing his pace in traffic and then dropping the hammer when the road opened up in front of him.

They did both have a weirdly slow lap 45, no idea why.
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P3 for SAI in FP2! Yaaay -- we are super fast :P
seriously though, hope they got enough data from FP1 for the right setup

Also -- never thought I'd say this -- there are too many stickers on the car now. Looks a bit tacky for such a well thought out livery

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Macklaren wrote:
17 Jul 2020, 16:34
P3 for SAI in FP2! Yaaay -- we are super fast :P
seriously though, hope they got enough data from FP1 for the right setup

Also -- never thought I'd say this -- there are too many stickers on the car now. Looks a bit tacky for such a well thought out livery
And they said that some new sponsors are expected to arrive soon :mrgreen:
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bauc wrote:
17 Jul 2020, 16:49
Macklaren wrote:
17 Jul 2020, 16:34
P3 for SAI in FP2! Yaaay -- we are super fast :P
seriously though, hope they got enough data from FP1 for the right setup

Also -- never thought I'd say this -- there are too many stickers on the car now. Looks a bit tacky for such a well thought out livery
And they said that some new sponsors are expected to arrive soon :mrgreen:
May end up looking like a NASCAR.... :lol:
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"I went well in the wet this afternoon, but in the dry this morning was a disaster," Sainz admitted. "The feeling with the car was not there. We saw how stronger Racing Point and Renault are. We wanted to try a few things to improve the car but we didn't have the opportunity because it came to rain. We don't know how it will go tomorrow ".
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Wynters wrote:
17 Jul 2020, 16:31
Quick shout back to Styria.

Each of the drivers had two significant stints:-
1) Once Sainz had been passed by Albon, Sainz had 23 laps at an average lap time of 1:09.65. He finished with a final 5-lap avg of 1:09.35 and pitted on lap 32. He had started losing time on his last two laps. I suspect he was trying to clear the Grosjean/Raikonnen/Kvyat/Gio battle from his pit window but couldn't quite manage it.
1) Once Stroll passed Norris he found himself stuck in the Ocon train. He traded places with Perez and Gasly but it didn't really matter as Ocon was holding all of them up. This didn't seem to be too much of an issue though as, once Ocon pitted on lap 26, Norris' pace remained consistent, sitting a couple of seconds back from Perez. In light of this, I've included the traffic period in his first stint meaning that Norris did 33 laps with a 1:09.74 average, finishing on a 5-lap 1:09.26 average when he pitted on lap 39.

2) Sainz comes out in traffic but it quickly clears leaving his second stint pretty unobstructed. Over the next 28 laps he averages a 1:08.57, finishing with a 1:08.12 (this is excluding the lap Norris passed him which saw a 1:09.85 from Sainz).
2) Norris comes out and is pretty clear until he reaches Sainz and then onto the end. This 31 lap stint was averaged at 1:08.0 with a final five laps of 1:07.4 or 1:07.9 (if you use the final 3 laps of squabbling). I've also excluded the lap he passed Sainz (which cost him almost a second).

Both drivers had a surprising amount of time in clear air (although I suspect Norris' strategy was dictated by being stuck behind the Ocon train for most of his first stint). Sainz commented after the race that trying to clear the traffic after his stop destroyed his tyres but I'm not wholly convinced. He cleared most of the traffic within 4 laps and barely sniffed the Racing points (overall, he spent four laps within 2-seconds of either Racing point and never within 1 second of them). The botched stop really didn't help but he was going to come out into traffic regardless. I feel it was a poor race from Sainz after a great qualifying.

Norris, on the other hand, seemed comfortable managing his pace in traffic and then dropping the hammer when the road opened up in front of him.

They did both have a weirdly slow lap 45, no idea why.

1) I agree with most of this except that Sainz wasn't loosing time the last 10 or so laps before the pit stop, rather Ricardo got faster and was closing in. I make this distinction only because Stroll and Perez were fighting and falling back from Ricardo.

The Kvyat (Medium tyre train) if Sainz/McLaren would have waited a couple of more laps, Kvyat lap time fell off a ton. Hind sight 20/20.


2) Sainz had a couple of battles in the first 10 laps after his pit stop. He passed Perez and was repassed by Perez. He also said he was going to back off attacking and recover his tires on race radio. To which his engineer replied agreeingly.

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Macklaren wrote:
17 Jul 2020, 16:34
P3 for SAI in FP2! Yaaay -- we are super fast :P
seriously though, hope they got enough data from FP1 for the right setup

Also -- never thought I'd say this -- there are too many stickers on the car now. Looks a bit tacky for such a well thought out livery
I agree concerning the stickers, albeit I think if they got rid of the duplications like all the BAT brands/substitutes and left it to the front wing and sidepods would look much better. Having Richard Mille, BAT and Coca-Cola in that small area looks cheap and tacky