[ 2020 ] Aston Martin RedBull Racing F1 Team - Honda

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But both driver complaining about car balance. Maybe they used lover mode for preventing crash. They just need to find and solve what is wrong with the car.

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The biggest mistake Red Bull made, is opting for a 2019 Ferrari style front wing. Based on onboards, they just don’t have the front downforce.

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Everything is clear now.....😁. This car dont work. At least at lower temps...

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It would be good for Red Bull to focus on 2022, rather than continuing to spend too much time on this year's concept for next year OR trying to revise it for another year. Let the junior folks handle for next year and put all energy to get the concept right for 2022. Similar target for Honda and then they might just be able to come out with a winner. That Mercedes is just way too fast and too far ahead and even that RP based on last year's Mercedes concept is there in the top three. Just shows it would be highly difficult task to match them even next year.

It would be a huge miracle to if RB17 turns up next year to match W12. But one can only hope.
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Honda are not missing anything on the contrary they are making Rbr look good.you can't be quick on the straights if you can't carry speed in the corners.maybe they should look at that leaf spring on front suspension it's not working.Redbull are getting a massive rude awakening for so long they have blamed the pu for under performance just look at the difference between Ferrari in Austria and now.

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Fnatic1 wrote:
18 Jul 2020, 12:54
The biggest mistake Red Bull made, is opting for a 2019 Ferrari style front wing. Based on onboards, they just don’t have the front downforce.
No they still have outboard loading, not as extreme as last year. Front downforce isn't their issue.

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What a mess... The 2nd sector is horrible, losing almost 0,5s to the four Mercs... #-o #-o

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Doesn't VER have a perfomance clausule in his contract with RB? Last year Hungary was a critical moment IIRC.

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Don't despair just blame it on Honda it will make you feel better

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TNTHead wrote:
18 Jul 2020, 13:47
Doesn't VER have a perfomance clausule in his contract with RB? Last year Hungary was a critical moment IIRC.
I think they signed a new contract that was something to do with the continuity of Honda with the team. But I don't remember, maybe that was only a smoke rumour

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Bill wrote:
18 Jul 2020, 13:49
Don't despair just blame it on Honda it will make you feel better
Who is blaming Honda? The 2nd sector is the slow corners sector :lol:

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McMika98 wrote:
17 Jul 2020, 20:37
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... y/4838378/
Max not happy at all. Cant wait to hear from Horner and Marko.
Real danger of falling behind Pink Merc this weekend.
For a moment, reading this felt like a bit of a relief after FP3. But then I realised it was from Friday evening. The car might be relatively fast when they get everything right, but it seems very hard to get it there. Cannot really see Verstappen fight for the win here if everything goes normal. Last podium spot fight with Perez and Leclerc?

Yes, on the whole the Verstappen part of the team might be the 2nd best as combination after Mercedes, but it is looking like depending on track and weekend Perez, and potentially Leclerc, McLaren, could challenge that and make it much harder to get consistent podium results.

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Most people after Austria were blaming Honda including Marko and Max even though missing a trivial 15 hp if you believe numbers that gets thrown around.on low altitude I don't expect them to miss anything.