I am still not convinced the powerunit is that good RedBull has been developing the car for an underperforming powerunit since ‘14. The rear wing is so low-drag it makes any powerunit look better, but also makes the more unstable.
I'm not saying it's a beast, but at least is helping on power sensitive tracks. Look where are the Ferrari customer teams here. And in race pace Honda seems to perform even better. But I saw Max doing a lot of corrections at the middle section of the corners. At least they admited they have a problem on the chasis/aero side, not like Mclaren when the Honda days. Hope it helps to work hard and bring a good 2021,if not, will be boring as hellNL_Fer wrote: ↑01 Aug 2020, 19:21I am still not convinced the powerunit is that good RedBull has been developing the car for an underperforming powerunit since ‘14. The rear wing is so low-drag it makes any powerunit look better, but also makes the more unstable.
I’m not saying Honda is doing a bad job though.
Actually, if you want to make the chassis more compliant, you would run more rear wing to get more downforce and therefore more predictability from the rear of the carBill wrote:Let's not distort facts here the Redbull are running low downforce rear wing to make the pierce of crap chassis drivable not to help weak pu the moment they add more downforce you would see drivers spinning and losing control of car.yes the best part of their package is Max and pu
If they were to use last year car with the development done since last year silverstone on the pu and aero I think they would probably go 0.5 tenth quicker.
Slight correction, if they opted for higher downforce then the car would be more driveable and faster in quali but slower in race distance. Ferrari clearly have high downforce for one lap performance, expect them to be sitting ducks down the straight tomorrow.Bill wrote: ↑01 Aug 2020, 19:54Let's not distort facts here the Redbull are running low downforce rear wing to make the pierce of crap chassis drivable not to help weak pu the moment they add more downforce you would see drivers spinning and losing control of car.yes the best part of their package is Max and pu
If they were to use last year car with the development done since last year silverstone on the pu and aero I think they would probably go 0.5 tenth quicker.
If you look at the speed trap, Leclerc was actually faster. Top speed, he was down just 2km/h from Verstappen.McMika98 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2020, 20:36Slight correction, if they opted for higher downforce then the car would be more driveable and faster in quali but slower in race distance. Ferrari clearly have high downforce for one lap performance, expect them to be sitting ducks down the straight tomorrow.Bill wrote: ↑01 Aug 2020, 19:54Let's not distort facts here the Redbull are running low downforce rear wing to make the pierce of crap chassis drivable not to help weak pu the moment they add more downforce you would see drivers spinning and losing control of car.yes the best part of their package is Max and pu
If they were to use last year car with the development done since last year silverstone on the pu and aero I think they would probably go 0.5 tenth quicker.
The major upgrade on this years car was the suspension arrangement which supposedly was so ingenious that no one could copy. Guess no one is ever going to copy at this rate.
But Red Bull has an understeer problem, that would make the understeer problem worse...SmallSoldier wrote: ↑01 Aug 2020, 20:30Actually, if you want to make the chassis more compliant, you would run more rear wing to get more downforce and therefore more predictability from the rear of the car
Will AlphaTauri have a choice? They get the hand-me-downs whether they want them or not, don't they?
Well what can he do? It's not his job to fix it. It's the job of Mr. Fallows, chief aerodynamicist, Mr. Newey, chief designer, and Mr. Wache, technical director (mainly suspension & tyres).
The refusal of Mercedes-Benz to supply Aston Martin power units to Red Bull Racing since 2016's Aston Martin sponsorship began is bad for the sport, the lack of support shown by Mercedes-Benz to Aston Martin's Formula One racing activity is galling -- especially when Mercedes' support suddenly is far greater when it is Racing Point and not Red Bull promoting Aston Martin, utterly bizarre.
