[ 2020 ] Aston Martin RedBull Racing F1 Team - Honda

[Wouter]

From Motorsport today.
Let's hope it's just a rumor that the ban won't take place until Italy.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/08/20/ban ... rand-prix/

At a Power Unit Working Group meeting held on Monday, two engine manufacturers are said by sources to have been unhappy about the changes. A further delay to the introduction of the ban, until later in the season or even next year, was also allegedly discussed.

I am really curious if we would get to know who those two manufacturers are! One of them can't be Ferrari as they are out of the game. I am certain if Mercedes has mooted the objective of postponement forward, there would be no takers.

Other one has to be Reno. They aint winning anything anytime soon so why not block RB from winning either.

Two engine manufacturers are said by sources to have been unhappy about the changes.

First of all, RBR will have it asap, so they will be unhappy.
Renault has a big quali mode, so they will be happy.

And again as the whole statement/article is "by sources". No other reliable site has mention a delay.

[Wouter]

https://note.com/hondaf1/n/n53dab24c01d8

Nice to know about the Honda battery. Just quickly translated the most important sentences and not corrected.

Negoro-san speaking, living in the UK since mid-2016, responsible for the development of the energy storage system (battery) that is part of the F1 hybrid system at HRD-UK, the British race base of Honda F1.

The current Honda power source is basically all developed at HRD-Sakura in Japan, but the only battery development here is at HRD-UK. This is because it is more efficient to do it in Europe, where tests are held, due to restrictions imposed by transport regulations. The assignment imposed on me during my stay in Japan and from the second half of 2016 in the UK was the independence of HRD-UK as a development base for batteries.

HRD-UK's current battery development team consists of a number of expatriates and many local members. When HRD-UK was first launched in 2014, there was only one building, mainly as a base for race members and PU maintenance teams, but in 2016 it was expanded to two. Since I was stationed, I hired staff for battery development / design / testing / assembly / purchase, etc., and gradually expanded the number of people to become an independent development base. Considering that I was the only battery developer in the beginning, I am deeply moved by the fact that we have grown to this size.

After a long period of development, we are very happy to have been able to introduce the first compact and lightweight battery that we produced ourselves.
We have all experienced the joy surrounding that milestone. I'm glad we were able to do our bit for Red Bull by developing a compact and light battery.

[Moore77]

https://www.racefans.net/2020/08/20/ban ... rand-prix/



I am really curious if we would get to know who those two manufacturers are! One of them can't be Ferrari as they are out of the game. I am certain if Mercedes has mooted the objective of postponement forward, there would be no takers.

Other one has to be Reno. They aint winning anything anytime soon so why not block RB from winning either.

Two engine manufacturers are said by sources to have been unhappy about the changes.

First of all, RBR will have it asap, so they will be unhappy.
Renault has a big quali mode, so they will be happy.

And again as the whole statement/article is "by sources". No other reliable site has mention a delay.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-me ... get-1[url][/url]

Mercedes and Honda get "party mode" ban postponed

[Wouter]

Other one has to be Reno. They aint winning anything anytime soon so why not block RB from winning either.

Two engine manufacturers are said by sources to have been unhappy about the changes.

First of all, RBR will have it asap, so they will be unhappy.
Renault has a big quali mode, so they will be happy.

And again as the whole statement/article is "by sources". No other reliable site has mention a delay.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-me ... get-1[url][/url]

Mercedes and Honda get "party mode" ban postponed

I read that article by Franco Nugnes, a big Ferrari fan and anti-Mercedes and anti-RBR yesterday.
He does not tell how he got the information, just like Dieter Rencken, who reported the same a few hours earlier.
The meeting on all of this was only this afternoon, so let's wait and see what they decided and which people submitted the request.

[dans79]

I read that article by Franco Nugnes, a big Ferrari fan and anti-Mercedes and anti-RBR yesterday.

That explains a lot!

[Moore77]

First of all, RBR will have it asap, so they will be unhappy.
Renault has a big quali mode, so they will be happy.

And again as the whole statement/article is "by sources". No other reliable site has mention a delay.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-me ... get-1[url][/url]

Mercedes and Honda get "party mode" ban postponed

I read that article by Franco Nugnes, a big Ferrari fan and anti-Mercedes and anti-RBR yesterday.
He does not tell how he got the information, just like Dieter Rencken, who reported the same a few hours earlier.
The meeting on all of this was only this afternoon, so let's wait and see what they decided and which people submitted the request.

He is an italian reporter and that could explain why he sounds like taking Ferrari's side. But I have never found his reports to be anti any team.

[Big Tea]

Other one has to be Reno. They aint winning anything anytime soon so why not block RB from winning either.

Two engine manufacturers are said by sources to have been unhappy about the changes.

First of all, RBR will have it asap, so they will be unhappy.
Renault has a big quali mode, so they will be happy.

And again as the whole statement/article is "by sources". No other reliable site has mention a delay.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-me ... get-1[url][/url]

Mercedes and Honda get "party mode" ban postponed

In the case of Merc, could it be that they want a slight engine mod due to the change and wait to introduce a new unit?

[godlameroso]

Spa may be a difficult weekend for Red Bull. The rear tires suffer heavily around here, add to that the very pointy nature of the RB16, and cool weather predicted for the race. Since they'll be trimming the car for sectors 1 & 3, the oversteer may make the car very difficult to make the tires last. I hope the updates they put on the car work as intended.

[mem]

Spa may be a difficult weekend for Red Bull. The rear tires suffer heavily around here, add to that the very pointy nature of the RB16, and cool weather predicted for the race. Since they'll be trimming the car for sectors 1 & 3, the oversteer may make the car very difficult to make the tires last. I hope the updates they put on the car work as intended.

just yesterday all teams uploaded their ERS full information and structures to the FIA perhaps we will see all engines equaled with Ferrari including mercs,you don't know what can happen in a blink of an eye

[Alexf1]

Spa may be a difficult weekend for Red Bull. The rear tires suffer heavily around here, add to that the very pointy nature of the RB16, and cool weather predicted for the race. Since they'll be trimming the car for sectors 1 & 3, the oversteer may make the car very difficult to make the tires last. I hope the updates they put on the car work as intended.

just yesterday all teams uploaded their ERS full information and structures to the FIA perhaps we will see all engines equaled with Ferrari including mercs,you don't know what can happen in a blink of an eye

Indeed, I think the FIA investigation in ERS systems is meant to scare the engine manufacturers and give them their last chance of stopping whatever they are doing in the grey area by themselves before FIA catches them. Bad publicity is the worst penalty possible for them. Toyota WRC is the best example.

[siskue2005]

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Mercedes and Honda get "party mode" ban postponed

Sorry for nitpicking, But what i understand is there in no ban on any type of party mode
It is only that there is a Ban on changing the mod from qualifying to race. That is only ban from what i have understood.
If the engine can run the Full party mod of 70 laps then it can be done.

Even F1.com have got it wrong and most of other sites

Please correct me if I am wrong

[Moore77]

[url]https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-me ... dget-1[url]

Mercedes and Honda get "party mode" ban postponed

Sorry for nitpicking, But what i understand is there in no ban on any type of party mode
It is only that there is a Ban on changing the mod from qualifying to race. That is only ban from what i have understood.
If the engine can run the Full party mod of 70 laps then it can be done.

Even F1.com have got it wrong and most of other sites

Please correct me if I am wrong

You are right.

[mem]

Indeed, I think the FIA investigation in ERS systems is meant to scare the engine manufacturers and give them their last chance of stopping whatever they are doing in the grey area by themselves before FIA catches them. Bad publicity is the worst penalty possible for them. Toyota WRC is the best example.

let the hunt begin.

[Big Tea]

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Mercedes and Honda get "party mode" ban postponed

Sorry for nitpicking, But what i understand is there in no ban on any type of party mode
It is only that there is a Ban on changing the mod from qualifying to race. That is only ban from what i have understood.
If the engine can run the Full party mod of 70 laps then it can be done.

Even F1.com have got it wrong and most of other sites

Please correct me if I am wrong

You do seem to be correct, but, even more nitpicking, if it is used for the whole race, it is not party mode its race mode.

[godlameroso]

I still think we should allow qualifying modes. That you have to run the mode you qualify in up to the first pit stop.

You can qualify higher at the expense of a shorter first stint, or lower with a longer first stint.