Renault's Cyril Abiteboul has revealed that the French manufacturer aims to continue its ascent in the engine department as the company is preparing a completely new platform, including novel technology that has not yet been seen on the track.
afaik and fwiw ....
Nope. 50% is for ICE only for Merc and Renault.Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 12:57afaik and fwiw ....
the magic 50% isn't for anyone's ICE - it's for the PU in sustainable running
ie based on the combined crankshaft output from pistons and the steady state K power using electricity generated by the H
also - (presumably) this 50% is at full sustainable PU power - not something else more headline-convenient
Even if it would have been true... It wouldn’t have had an effect this one, furthermore, the spec has to remain the same for the rest of the season, so any information (which I doubt has been shared and is just a conspiracy theory) that Mercedes may have given Renault wouldn’t have an impact in their performance this season.toraabe wrote:Now that Renault engine really has got beans. Definitely not far behind Mercedes but clear ahead of Honda. I wonder if that rumour about information on optimizing their engine from partner Mercedes is true.......
Only softwareSmallSoldier wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 18:10Even if it would have been true... It wouldn’t have had an effect this one, furthermore, the spec has to remain the same for the rest of the season, so any information (which I doubt has been shared and is just a conspiracy theory) that Mercedes may have given Renault wouldn’t have an impact in their performance this season.toraabe wrote:Now that Renault engine really has got beans. Definitely not far behind Mercedes but clear ahead of Honda. I wonder if that rumour about information on optimizing their engine from partner Mercedes is true.......
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Not true. They wouldn't measure it that way. You have to dig through these engine threads to see those calculations unfortunately. Lol.bucker wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 17:19Nope. 50% is for ICE only for Merc and Renault.Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 12:57afaik and fwiw ....
the magic 50% isn't for anyone's ICE - it's for the PU in sustainable running
ie based on the combined crankshaft output from pistons and the steady state K power using electricity generated by the H
also - (presumably) this 50% is at full sustainable PU power - not something else more headline-convenient
Yes you are right. I was wrong all that time. Just did little research.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑07 Sep 2020, 23:33Not true. They wouldn't measure it that way. You have to dig through these engine threads to see those calculations unfortunately. Lol.bucker wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 17:19Nope. 50% is for ICE only for Merc and Renault.Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 12:57
afaik and fwiw ....
the magic 50% isn't for anyone's ICE - it's for the PU in sustainable running
ie based on the combined crankshaft output from pistons and the steady state K power using electricity generated by the H
also - (presumably) this 50% is at full sustainable PU power - not something else more headline-convenient
The MGUH and MUGK is part of the thermal efficiency calculations with the battery at a steady state of charge. Only input energy is the fuel just like a regular calculation.
Since when are Mercedes and Renault partners? Have I missed something? Mercedes and Renault's engines are different concepts and if there was any inkling of this happening there would be issues with Ferrari and Red Bull. Every time a manufacturer makes a gain we always hear the rumours how Mercedes gave them a heads up. Complete stupidity and time to give the engineers at Renault some praise for finally fixing their engine and making it reliable and powerful.
