[ 2020 ] Aston Martin RedBull Racing F1 Team - Honda

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SmallSoldier wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 20:21
Changing deployment / charging strategies... All drivers where doing this.
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Not just deployment, he was changing engine modes from mode 3 to 6.

As for Gasly he will not want to be part of Redbull, I think the bridge between him and Horner is burnt. I still think he won't fare well in the car and with the pressure. He was being hounded by Kvyat before his fortunate pitstop. He is quick in free air and quali. Vettel is washed up and just has no confidence what so ever. He will get blasted by Max.

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Engine modes can be changed, but it must happen every Lap at the same spot/corner.
Horner said, if Racinf Point is legal then they will run four Red Bulls from 2021 on. As we saw today they should run four Alpha Tauris 😂😂.

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It looks like Max is genuinely disappointed. :wtf:

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bucker wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 20:38
Engine modes can be changed, but it must happen every Lap at the same spot/corner.
Horner said, if Racinf Point is legal then they will run four Red Bulls from 2021 on. As we saw today they should run four Alpha Tauris 😂😂.
As I said in other places, a few million extra at AT will give better payback than much of what is bought for the same cost at the boss team
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06 Sep 2020, 19:12
mem wrote:a race to forget , i bet Max retired the car its not working in Monza at all :lol:

Bottas is "not sure how happy Red Bull is now" with the ban on Formula 1 engine , perhaps Bottas can tell us how happy he is now that he stucked behind Renault and Mclaren for 53 laps :lol: :lol: while Hamilton damaging his PU flooring the paddle to collect scraps and overtake the alfa romeo and alpha tauri :mrgreen:
yeah Toto we just saw how faster you are after the qualy mode ban :lol:
Actually... Hamilton showed how much of a gap they have to the rest of the field today... After not only been last, but 20+ seconds behind the field in the last stint, he managed to finish 7th in a race where it was difficult to overtake for everyone.


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focus on the bolded line , he did nothing but unnecessary damaging his PU for 6 points while having a 50 points lead.
lets see when he will use a new PU :wink:
if he could go that fast normally while Bottas can't overtake Mclaren for 53 laps Bottas must be a donkey :wink:
Because Bottas was on a train of cars with more pace than the ones Hamilton was against... The Mclaren’s with their low DF setup were very hard to catch even with DRS... If you add the overheating issues that Bottas had since the beginning of the race, it explains why Hamilton moved so much up the grid... But they do hold a significant pace advantage (which Hamilton also showed at the beginning of the race).

Since they can’t change ICE modes during the race, his PU damage wouldn’t be much higher than the rest of the field.


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Verstappen retired with mechanical problems 2 out of 8 races. 25%. I agree with him, a joke. Clearly they need to improve a lot in their procedures. This weekend has been a giant dissapointment for RBR. From start to finish.

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06 Sep 2020, 20:29


Oh no, I do not mean put Gasly back at Red Bull. He is fine where he is. As I said, give AT more resources and lift them up closer to RbR. Gasly and Albon would be a good crew.
TBH, I think the best option at RbR would be Seb Vettel. He is a long term champion and could handle the pressure and also tell them what he can and can not do.
Fully agree with you about that. They can use AT as experimental team but they must pour money and different ideas to them to apply car and they can take what works well.
I just thought this driver exchange maybe a development way for drivers. As I said this Redbull car seems hard to drive and if he turn to this Redbull we may see same bad performance again.

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On the radio Max clearly changes engine setting between mode 3 and mode 6. Is this allowed?
He is getting irate with the team and its telling

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i just heard Max radio this is kinda like GP2 engine :lol: :lol:

now i feel lost because his engineer asked him to change engine modes multiple times #-o

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They're allowed to change engine modes for reliability issues and have to report it to the FIA

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Plus Fail settings are not engine modes.

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SmallSoldier wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 20:47
Because Bottas was on a train of cars with more pace than the ones Hamilton was against... The Mclaren’s with their low DF setup were very hard to catch even with DRS... If you add the overheating issues that Bottas had since the beginning of the race, it explains why Hamilton moved so much up the grid... But they do hold a significant pace advantage (which Hamilton also showed at the beginning of the race).

Since they can’t change ICE modes during the race, his PU damage wouldn’t be much higher than the rest of the field.


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i couldn't disagree more and i don't think any one can agree with you, since when mclaren can stop a mercs?
Hamilton pace at the start due to having a midfield car behind him.

but to be honest iam lost now because clearly drivers changed mode during the race and i have no clue what is going on...

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equaliser wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 21:01
They're allowed to change engine modes for reliability issues and have to report it to the FIA
ah thanks , you mean they can change mode for lower power sitting but not for more right ?

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mem wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 21:06
equaliser wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 21:01
They're allowed to change engine modes for reliability issues and have to report it to the FIA
ah thanks , you mean they can change mode for lower power sitting but not for more right ?
That's my understanding but don't quote me on it!

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"First of all, I'd like to congratulate everyone at AlphaTauri, especially Franz Tost, Pierre Gasly and Honda, who put in something crazy today to take the win here," said Horner.
"Our challenging weekend had a sequel in the race. Max was stuck in a DRS train after the start. That's almost impossible to break on this circuit," the 46-year-old boss explained. "Alex had damage after contact in the first corner. He was also given a tough five-second time penalty, which put him at the back of the field."
During the restart of the GP, Verstappen had to deal with an engine problem. "We couldn't solve it, so Max had to give up after thirty laps. For Alex, the damage to his floor was considerable. He lost about one second per lap during the race. It wasn't our best weekend, but we will reconvene and work hard to make sure we are back where we belong next weekend in Mugello."
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