[ 2020 ] Aston Martin RedBull Racing F1 Team - Honda

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Mansell89 wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 21:03
Right, with the news coming that Sergio Perez leaves Racing Point at the end of the season, surely Red Bull won’t be stupid enough to miss out on a cracking racer with plenty of experience on alternative strategies and going long?

He’s absolutely perfect for Red Bull whilst Alex and Pierre continue to learn at Toro Rosso?
I think they would have been more likely to take Seb. If they did not jump at Seb Perez has no chance. RBR will look after their drivers first. If they were ever to consider Perez it would be that he prove himself in AT first. But event that is close to zero chance.

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Mansell89 wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 21:03
Right, with the news coming that Sergio Perez leaves Racing Point at the end of the season, surely Red Bull won’t be stupid enough to miss out on a cracking racer with plenty of experience on alternative strategies and going long?

He’s absolutely perfect for Red Bull whilst Alex and Pierre continue to learn at Toro Rosso?
When was the last time Red Bull went outside their program? Webber & Coulthard? I don't see them getting Perez. That car has some serious issues and Max seems to like the car that way. Nobody else seems to be able to live with it.

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Mamba wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 21:13
Mansell89 wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 21:03
Right, with the news coming that Sergio Perez leaves Racing Point at the end of the season, surely Red Bull won’t be stupid enough to miss out on a cracking racer with plenty of experience on alternative strategies and going long?

He’s absolutely perfect for Red Bull whilst Alex and Pierre continue to learn at Toro Rosso?
When was the last time Red Bull went outside their program? Webber & Coulthard? I don't see them getting Perez. That car has some serious issues and Max seems to like the car that way. Nobody else seems to be able to live with it.
Bourdais was the last I think, and it did not end well. I would really like to see Perez land in a good seat but can't see it happening.

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Wass85 wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 21:10
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After left scratching my head at the team persevering with Albon I've come to the conclusion that he and Verstappen aren't given the same equipment.

I mean they must know something we don't if they claim he's been performing well? Maybe he has been driving out of his skin in an inferior car, why the hell would they keep him if not?
A couple pages back, Helmut Marko in interview confirmed that Alex was NOT given the same equipment. Helmut Marko: “That means Albon did not start with the same equipment in most races. It went so far that we tried different things during practice and he was confronted with different suspension settings.”

https://formulaspy.com/f1/albon-racing- ... ppen-71039

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Wass85 wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 21:10
Mansell89 wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 21:03
Right, with the news coming that Sergio Perez leaves Racing Point at the end of the season, surely Red Bull won’t be stupid enough to miss out on a cracking racer with plenty of experience on alternative strategies and going long?

He’s absolutely perfect for Red Bull whilst Alex and Pierre continue to learn at Toro Rosso?

I think they are that stupid.

After left scratching my head at the team persevering with Albon I've come to the conclusion that he and Verstappen aren't given the same equipment.

I mean they must know something we don't if they claim he's been performing well? Maybe he has been driving out of his skin in an inferior car, why the hell would they keep him if not?
Perez and RB, that's what I call stupid, luckily RB will think the same. He's definitely not RB material and on his way back.

Car is --- to drive, no point to change drivers besides that no good driver is available now. And Albon gets equal material, sometimes ofc it might happen Max gets the new stuff if there is only one part available. That happens everywhere.

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Perez’s statement is classy, its a shame but expected. Regardless perez is clearly not wanted there, i wish him well. Id like to see him at Alfa, or At Renault as a steady wingman to Alonso..
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epo wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 22:50
Wass85 wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 21:10
Mansell89 wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 21:03
Right, with the news coming that Sergio Perez leaves Racing Point at the end of the season, surely Red Bull won’t be stupid enough to miss out on a cracking racer with plenty of experience on alternative strategies and going long?

He’s absolutely perfect for Red Bull whilst Alex and Pierre continue to learn at Toro Rosso?

I think they are that stupid.

After left scratching my head at the team persevering with Albon I've come to the conclusion that he and Verstappen aren't given the same equipment.

I mean they must know something we don't if they claim he's been performing well? Maybe he has been driving out of his skin in an inferior car, why the hell would they keep him if not?
Perez and RB, that's what I call stupid, luckily RB will think the same. He's definitely not RB material and on his way back.

Car is --- to drive, no point to change drivers besides that no good driver is available now. And Albon gets equal material, sometimes ofc it might happen Max gets the new stuff if there is only one part available. That happens everywhere.
Why is it a stupid pairing, I think he would be a solid pair of hands at RB.

He can't perform any worse than Albon who has been abysmal in all seriousness.

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Wass85 wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 23:28
epo wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 22:50

Perez and RB, that's what I call stupid, luckily RB will think the same. He's definitely not RB material and on his way back.
Car is --- to drive, no point to change drivers besides that no good driver is available now.
Why is it a stupid pairing, I think he would be a solid pair of hands at RB.

He can't perform any worse than Albon who has been abysmal in all seriousness.
Nope, Perez struggles with quali and one lap pace. He was undressed by Hulk, Ocon to some extent Stroll in quai. His racepace is good as he is gentle on tyres but Albon is as decent if not more effective.
In terms of driving style he is the polar opposite of Max, if he is put on a redbull seat he will be seconds behind Max in quali no doubt. His racing lines are so different to Max's they would have to make another car for him.

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And so moves the story...

https://www.grandprix247.com/2020/09/09 ... rop-gasly/
Lewis Hamilton lobbied Red Bull boss Christian Horner to replace Pierre Gasly with Alexander Albon during the 2019 Formula 1 season, according to team advisor Helmut Marko.

Hamilton, who said after Gasly’s win in Sunday’s Italian Grand Prix that the Frenchman hadn’t been “treated fairly” by the energy drinks outfit last season, is alleged by Marko to have been playing a very different tune last season.

“Lewis spoke to our team boss Christian Horner on the plane and recommended that Albon be put in the car instead of Pierre Gasly,” he told Sport1. “That was before the swap was carried out by us after the summer break.”

A week later, Gasly was swapped with Albon, and Marko has not forgotten Hamilton’s remarks, indicating that the Briton would be better served keeping his mouth shut.

“We don’t care. The one he wanted to get rid of last summer has now won the Italian Grand Prix with our AlphaTauri team. So much for his expertise.

“I have no idea why Hamilton always feels the need to interfere. But it doesn’t matter to us what opinion people from the outside have.”
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Moore77 wrote:
10 Sep 2020, 06:37
And so moves the story...

https://www.grandprix247.com/2020/09/09 ... rop-gasly/
Lewis Hamilton lobbied Red Bull boss Christian Horner to replace Pierre Gasly with Alexander Albon during the 2019 Formula 1 season, according to team advisor Helmut Marko.

Hamilton, who said after Gasly’s win in Sunday’s Italian Grand Prix that the Frenchman hadn’t been “treated fairly” by the energy drinks outfit last season, is alleged by Marko to have been playing a very different tune last season.

“Lewis spoke to our team boss Christian Horner on the plane and recommended that Albon be put in the car instead of Pierre Gasly,” he told Sport1. “That was before the swap was carried out by us after the summer break.”

A week later, Gasly was swapped with Albon, and Marko has not forgotten Hamilton’s remarks, indicating that the Briton would be better served keeping his mouth shut.

“We don’t care. The one he wanted to get rid of last summer has now won the Italian Grand Prix with our AlphaTauri team. So much for his expertise.

“I have no idea why Hamilton always feels the need to interfere. But it doesn’t matter to us what opinion people from the outside have.”
If it was such a bad idea, why did they do it? Helmut must be really gullible
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is Honda bringing any update in the next races?
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Big Tea wrote:
10 Sep 2020, 14:52
Moore77 wrote:
10 Sep 2020, 06:37
And so moves the story...

https://www.grandprix247.com/2020/09/09 ... rop-gasly/
Lewis Hamilton lobbied Red Bull boss Christian Horner to replace Pierre Gasly with Alexander Albon during the 2019 Formula 1 season, according to team advisor Helmut Marko.

Hamilton, who said after Gasly’s win in Sunday’s Italian Grand Prix that the Frenchman hadn’t been “treated fairly” by the energy drinks outfit last season, is alleged by Marko to have been playing a very different tune last season.

“Lewis spoke to our team boss Christian Horner on the plane and recommended that Albon be put in the car instead of Pierre Gasly,” he told Sport1. “That was before the swap was carried out by us after the summer break.”

A week later, Gasly was swapped with Albon, and Marko has not forgotten Hamilton’s remarks, indicating that the Briton would be better served keeping his mouth shut.

“We don’t care. The one he wanted to get rid of last summer has now won the Italian Grand Prix with our AlphaTauri team. So much for his expertise.

“I have no idea why Hamilton always feels the need to interfere. But it doesn’t matter to us what opinion people from the outside have.”
If it was such a bad idea, why did they do it? Helmut must be really gullible
He says what sassy ham suggested them to do, but he don't say "we did what he said. " Everyone was talking about that swap so it was not some brilliant thing.

I have no idea why Hamilton always feels the need to interfere
I think there is something makes Ham such a sassy person that he can go to stewards when all drivers waiting race start. If there is something to talk with them toto or someone else who has administrative mission can go and talk.
Their penalty was so late that I thought they will penalty pitlane indicators by accusing they worked wrong because of some issue and let ham to enjoy what he did. Maybe ham himself also wondered why this not happened.

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Tanabe: Although we won in Monza it was in some ways quite a tough weekend, especially as we had a problem during the race which led to Max having to retire, in order not to damage the engine. We have analysed the problem and have taken measures to ensure this problem does not recur. We also learned a lot about dealing with the new PU Mode regulation and we expect to make use of the knowledge gained over the course of the weekend.
https://en.hondaracingf1.com/races/2020 ... ?tab=setup

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“We don’t care. The one he wanted to get rid of last summer has now won the Italian Grand Prix with our AlphaTauri team. So much for his expertise."

Or, to put it another way -

"Gasly's win shows only a total idiot would even suggest demoting Gasly!" Declared Helmut Marko, after actually demoting Gasly.

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Sayeman wrote:
10 Sep 2020, 15:11
is Honda bringing any update in the next races?
There are no in-season updates this year.