Honda F1 project leader Yusuke Hasegawa has outlined a number of reasons why Honda has been struggling so badly in the beginning of the 2017 Formula One season. He confirmed that lots of problems were not discovered while running on the dynamo meter.
Whatever the reason it turns out to be, it's good that they have 3 other PUs to compare it to, and another chassis package too. If Red Bull was the only team using Honda engines then they wouldn't be able to make comparisons between packaging differences. It's good Honda was able to show that their PU isn't a slouch!
We know that, only McMika is trolling about it so just ignore that.ispano6 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 06:28The point is that if Gasly hadn't won we'd be hearing about the Honda PU being weaker to Renault and that RedBull would be regretting switching to Honda etc. We already see comments that the win was a one off and what happened to Max is the expected norm. If Mercedes didn't have engine overheating woes we'd hear how only Honda PU has bad cooling or overheating issues. People here are quick to denigrate Honda and thankfully Pierre and SATS performance proved the packaging and how it's used is what puts it in its sweetspot. Tanabe made it a point to say the PU worked perfectly in the race winning AT01.
In Austria the issue was reported to be related to the flywheel. It's not clear whether it was mechanical or electrical though. All we know is that Honda said that they did a very simple fix to avoid it from happening again.
On the other hand, did you understand the cause of Verstappen's retirement?
Tanabe TD: As a result of the analysis, it was almost clarified. Fortunately, the engine was undamaged and will continue to be used. However, it seems that the high temperature is also affecting the trouble, and it will be necessary to prepare properly because the hot race this weekend is expected.
You mentioned that the problem was caused by high temperature. More specifically?
Tanabe TD: That's just what I said earlier.
Verstappen was in the DRS train before the red flag was interrupted, but was it affected by the high temperature?
Tanabe TD: That's not the case. Rather, I feel that the interruption of the red flag was not desirable.
Is it an irregular problem?
Tanabe TD: If that happens all the time, I'm in trouble.
Is it something related to design?
Tanabe TD: Not really. Basically, it's okay.
Since you mentioned, I feel obliged to inform that if not for that one in a million chance of Gasly finding himself from P10 to front, it would have been the ex-partner of Honda now with a Renault engine getting its first win since eons. Quali pace was meh and race pace does not matter anymore with the new rule as they cant get more modes to overtake.epo wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 11:36We know that, only McMika is trolling about it so just ignore that.ispano6 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 06:28The point is that if Gasly hadn't won we'd be hearing about the Honda PU being weaker to Renault and that RedBull would be regretting switching to Honda etc. We already see comments that the win was a one off and what happened to Max is the expected norm. If Mercedes didn't have engine overheating woes we'd hear how only Honda PU has bad cooling or overheating issues. People here are quick to denigrate Honda and thankfully Pierre and SATS performance proved the packaging and how it's used is what puts it in its sweetspot. Tanabe made it a point to say the PU worked perfectly in the race winning AT01.
That Renault engine is meh, they turned it up for two races and where are they now?McMika98 wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 02:19Since you mentioned, I feel obliged to inform that if not for that one in a million chance of Gasly finding himself from P10 to front, it would have been the ex-partner of Honda now with a Renault engine getting its first win since eons. Quali pace was meh and race pace does not matter anymore with the new rule as they cant get more modes to overtake.epo wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 11:36We know that, only McMika is trolling about it so just ignore that.ispano6 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 06:28The point is that if Gasly hadn't won we'd be hearing about the Honda PU being weaker to Renault and that RedBull would be regretting switching to Honda etc. We already see comments that the win was a one off and what happened to Max is the expected norm. If Mercedes didn't have engine overheating woes we'd hear how only Honda PU has bad cooling or overheating issues. People here are quick to denigrate Honda and thankfully Pierre and SATS performance proved the packaging and how it's used is what puts it in its sweetspot. Tanabe made it a point to say the PU worked perfectly in the race winning AT01.
Engine is not bad. This track is all about extreme downforce. Reno cars aren't good at that DF levels.epo wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 19:14That Renault engine is meh, they turned it up for two races and where are they now?McMika98 wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 02:19Since you mentioned, I feel obliged to inform that if not for that one in a million chance of Gasly finding himself from P10 to front, it would have been the ex-partner of Honda now with a Renault engine getting its first win since eons. Quali pace was meh and race pace does not matter anymore with the new rule as they cant get more modes to overtake.
Please, what's with the small bro syndrome. Who has more cars qualified in top 10 and how come a race winning car and driver can't even get out of Q1?
Maybe we could just look at the top of the page and try to stay on the topic shown. Seriously, what does any of this have to do with the inner workings of the Honda PU? This is better off in another thread.McMika98 wrote: Let's revisit after Bahrain.
