afaik and fwiw
doesn't the 'Mercedes' company hold shares in the Renault company ? (and vice-versa)
this having made suspect eg the independence of voting on engine design freeze in the NA days ?
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Renault's Cyril Abiteboul has revealed that the French manufacturer aims to continue its ascent in the engine department as the company is preparing a completely new platform, including novel technology that has not yet been seen on the track.
Yeah fully agree and they appear to have done it with a much smaller budget than Honda/Mercedes which is very creditable. Now I wonder whether they will bring any engine updates next year or hold everything in reserve for 2022. I am sure there are improvements from the new 2022 engine they could bring next year to the next spec from the current engine.carisi2k wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 04:39Since when are Mercedes and Renault partners? Have I missed something? Mercedes and Renault's engines are different concepts and if there was any inkling of this happening there would be issues with Ferrari and Red Bull. Every time a manufacturer makes a gain we always hear the rumours how Mercedes gave them a heads up. Complete stupidity and time to give the engineers at Renault some praise for finally fixing their engine and making it reliable and powerful.
I'm really enjoying watching Daniel up the top of the grid instead of somewhere in the middle.
Ie everyone is going split turbo.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 00:39Cyril did say they are building a brand new engine for 2022 though... He wanted to bring it in 2021 but thought better of it.
Yeah, had nothing to do with regs preventing it.godlameroso wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020, 14:52Ie everyone is going split turbo.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 00:39Cyril did say they are building a brand new engine for 2022 though... He wanted to bring it in 2021 but thought better of it.
Kind of cool kind of scary when you remember the issues Honda had the first year.
Wasnt it aleady number two in peak power in 2019?. And before the qualy mode ban, even Marko said the Renault was slightly number two in qualy mode.
What kind of issues did they have, a part from the oil supply? you have 30 minutes. A brief summary of the 1160-page Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software topic will suffice.
Where did you hear Honda were hurt by the sensor regulations? They're making more power than last year and along with RB, probably instigated the new reg in the first place by pointing the finger at Ferrari. Highly unlikely!
It's 100% facts. You're welcome.
Untrue. He put a new engine/PU in Monza (3rd) because the previous ones were relatively used (he made the first change quite early: in Silverstone2 indeed) so the team has given him a fresh engine in Monza to maximise his chances there.
No one said those engines are dead (and the same goes for Ric, his 2 older engines arent necessarily dead - yes the first one probably encountered a problem, hence the early change).Power unit elements used tells nothing apart from date of introduction, not expiry.
I'm all for banter, but can the chats keep a morsel of fact about them?
Just after saying thisDaniel is on his final ICE which was changed a couple of weekends ago due to issues with the previous one. So that has to last to the end now.
Power unit elements used tells nothing apart from date of introduction, not expiry.
Just like that famous power graph putting themselves in front of renault while casually ignoring the huge jump in power Renault made that winter.