Ferrari also had this problem at the start of the season, no wonder, because the rear of the two cars are close. Ferrari got rid of the problem relatively quickly, Haas has difficulty with the heat from the cooler.ryaan2904 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2020, 20:09
In this video, The Race explains haas' infamous rear suspension problem and what could be causing it. Now, that aside, what's the important bit here is that haas buys its suspension components from Ferrari
I'm positive Ferrari faces the same problem. It all adds up, 1. With the general complaints all thru the season, of the balance being all over the place, especially in the rear. 2. Ferrari later clarifying with a statement that they "discovered a tuning fault in the rear hydraulic suspension", which they "corrected" (this was around the Russian/eifel gp i think). 3. Focus on rebuilding the rear suspension for 2021. This is one big --- up from the team. I don't believe in the 'revolving doors' policy, but that one guy who designed this must be fired.
Hats off to Leclerc tho. If this is true, his performance is legendary.
Can you elaborate on the gearbox tunnel part please? I've never heard about itMtthsMlw wrote: ↑30 Oct 2020, 20:53Most recent diffuser. Also the gearbox tunnel is back, haven't noticed it on this year's car yet. Looks like they're trying some old proven solutions, same with the vertical floor fins.
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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13479 ... or-tunnels here you go broryaan2904 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2020, 22:06Can you elaborate on the gearbox tunnel part please? I've never heard about itMtthsMlw wrote: ↑30 Oct 2020, 20:53Most recent diffuser. Also the gearbox tunnel is back, haven't noticed it on this year's car yet. Looks like they're trying some old proven solutions, same with the vertical floor fins.
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Sure. I'm talking about the feature circled here:ryaan2904 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2020, 22:06Can you elaborate on the gearbox tunnel part please? I've never heard about itMtthsMlw wrote: ↑30 Oct 2020, 20:53Most recent diffuser. Also the gearbox tunnel is back, haven't noticed it on this year's car yet. Looks like they're trying some old proven solutions, same with the vertical floor fins.
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Is the central-upper part of the diffuser under the crash structure also different?MtthsMlw wrote: ↑30 Oct 2020, 20:53Most recent diffuser. Also the gearbox tunnel is back, haven't noticed it on this year's car yet. Looks like they're trying some old proven solutions, same with the vertical floor fins.
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Potentially that little fin coming from the crash structure if you compare it to the Portuguese GP one hereF1ern wrote: ↑30 Oct 2020, 23:12Is the central-upper part of the diffuser under the crash structure also different?MtthsMlw wrote: ↑30 Oct 2020, 20:53Most recent diffuser. Also the gearbox tunnel is back, haven't noticed it on this year's car yet. Looks like they're trying some old proven solutions, same with the vertical floor fins.
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It is probably just the angle of the shot (or I'm going blind!)... but the inbound Vertical Strakes of the diffuser look to be... asymmetrical? They seem to have a slightly different curve along the bottom edge...MtthsMlw wrote: ↑30 Oct 2020, 20:53Most recent diffuser. Also the gearbox tunnel is back, haven't noticed it on this year's car yet. Looks like they're trying some old proven solutions, same with the vertical floor fins.
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They do seem to have a hybrid solution, they have a smaller cape and it seems like the mini cape is sending air out and inboard the j-vanes.ryaan2904 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 06:42https://images.app.goo.gl/y9gVzCd2JUyTs8YU9
Guys notice how Ferrari's J vanes converge at the bottom in such a way that the bottom part almost looks like a cape. Does that mean that Ferrari enjoys the benefits of both J Vanes and the cape??
A specific answer to your question is out of my pay grade I'm afraid, but I have a general theory.godlameroso wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 07:03They do seem to have a hybrid solution, they have a smaller cape and it seems like the mini cape is sending air out and inboard the j-vanes.ryaan2904 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 06:42https://images.app.goo.gl/y9gVzCd2JUyTs8YU9
Guys notice how Ferrari's J vanes converge at the bottom in such a way that the bottom part almost looks like a cape. Does that mean that Ferrari enjoys the benefits of both J Vanes and the cape??
Do you think those little vortex generators on the outside of the J-vanes, are to encourage more airflow inboard of the j-vanes?
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Nicolas Carpentiers wrote:At #ImolaGP scrutineering, the #F1 Ferrari was fitted with ‘new’ floor. Very similar to initial one (raced in Austria before replaced in Styria), but tiny changes: winglet between diffuser & crash struct. (yellow), and metal piece stiffening flaps around diffuser (red)
What escaped us in Portimao was the return of the carbon “tunnels” which cover part of the area between the flat bottom and the gearbox (see the image below).These gutters have been on the Maranello cars since 2018, but they had disappeared on the SF1000.