[ 2020 ] Renault F1 Team - Renault

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Congratulations. Another one for the ignore list. Bye!

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Ocon only got 3 new tires at the first stop, so that may explain the poor performance during the middle stint.

I guess one tire from the set of Mediums was damaged during the opening lap, and after using the 2nd set for the re-start, that meant only three usable tires were left in the garage.

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 19:44
not a good performance by Ric. change him with Alonso to get familiar with 2020 car and can help in developing 2022 car.

It seems Ric is suffering on bring the Tyre to operational temperature. at the second start he lost the places. I did not except this from him. Some time he seems to be average driver.

Better replace with Alonso and Renault not going to lose much.
Ric is an average driver because he did not get a good second start?
Ocon was a very highly rated driver and look what Ric is doing to him.
14 -1 in Qualifying
Ric was faster than Ocon in the 2nd stint with slower tyres even
Then the 3rd stint both put on hards and Ric overtook Ocon on track without team orders on lap 38 then opened a 14 second gap over the next 14 laps both in clear air. Ric was 1 second a lap quicker than ocon.
Usually the best of the best drivers are half a second quicker but 1 second is insane over a 14 lap stint like that.

http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page ... ban%20Ocon

Ric's driving was on another planet compared to Ocon's and you calling him average?
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Ric got held up by Ocon the first time around. That slowed him down. Then Perez PU failure was kind of a blessing and a curse cause he moved up 1 possition with the retirement but didn't have time to pass Gas. :).

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are we forgot Ric losses couple of places when second start on lap2? I am sure that he is still missing something.... I don't see much difference between him and ocon however Ric got team support.

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
30 Nov 2020, 12:07
are we forgot Ric losses couple of places when second start on lap2? I am sure that he is still missing something.... I don't see much difference between him and ocon however Ric got team support.
Was he on hards? They takes a couple of laps to fire up.

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asking question is negative? whats wrong in it. He lost places at the second start and it is true.

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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 19:48
Congratulations. Another one for the ignore list. Bye!
Not wrong there!
"In downforce we trust"

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
30 Nov 2020, 19:42
asking question is negative? whats wrong in it. He lost places at the second start and it is true.
Yes Ric did get a poor 2nd start that is true and questions are fine.
But it does seem you have ruffled quite a few feathers with your other statements as pasted below.

"not a good performance by Ric. change him with Alonso to get familiar with 2020 car and can help in developing 2022 car."

"I don't see much difference between him and ocon however Ric got team support."

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In Bahrain Ric apart from the poor second start schooled Ocon with an incredible final stint which i pasted info above with Ric coming in 7th with 6 points and Ocon in 9th and only 2 points. So Ric definately had a better Bahrain than Ocon overall.

Overall Ric is on 102 points over double Ocons on 42 with Renault fighting for best of the rest constructors points. And you want to swap Renault's star driver for the last 2 races with Alonso (who yes is an incredible driver, 1 of the best of all time), cold turkey next weekend who is not up to speed with the car which he even admitted at the recent filming day test?
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djos wrote:
30 Nov 2020, 21:48
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 19:48
Congratulations. Another one for the ignore list. Bye!
Not wrong there!
Next one for ignore list.

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each one has different opinion thats why we have forum to share every one thoughts. It seems some of them are not tolerating it and giving negative rating and ignore list.

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All you have is opinion and you ignore the facts, this is a technical forum where facts Matter. If you want to invent your own reality, go join Parler!
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djos wrote:
01 Dec 2020, 22:41
All you have is opinion and you ignore the facts, this is a technical forum where facts Matter. If you want to invent your own reality, go join Parler!
dont attack personally. If you don't agree with my thoughts you have right to say. Please mind the words when you are using in forum.

The fact is Ric second restart is not good and he lost the places. what wrong in saying that? Is not true?

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djos wrote:
01 Dec 2020, 22:41
All you have is opinion and you ignore the facts, this is a technical forum where facts Matter. If you want to invent your own reality, go join Parler!
I think English is not his main language. I'm not sure he' s deleivering the message "Exactly" how he wants it conveyed. It can be a little rough. I usually get the gist of it.

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