Doesn't really matter how fast you are if you can't convert it though does it.godlameroso wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 02:24Friday practice no one could match him in the long runs, he had the pace to win that race, it was obvious. In Mugello and Imola he also had incredible pace, shame he couldn't convert it.
That's not what I meant. He knows the power and drivability, how long the K deployment is on straights. He's been racing with a Mercedes power unit for 6 years, if there's any qualitative difference he can supply input.velizare wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 10:40i think its too late for change anything serious regarding the engine.godlameroso wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 02:26Perez has been driving Mercedes engines since he went to Force India. He's been using Mercedes engines and tracking their progress since the start of the hybrid era. His feedback is very valuable.
https://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/ ... ebens.htmlDr. Helmut Marko and Max Verstappen were yesterday at the ServusTV end-of-year gala for "Sport and Talk from Hangar-7".
Perez's Mercedes knowledge is decisive
Helmut Marko explained why Red Bull Racing has entered into a partnership with Sergio Perez from 2021. Before ServusTV he explains that it was a close battle between the Mexican and Nico Hülkenberg, but that Red Bull went for the former Racing Point man due to a number of factors.
Why did Red Bull ultimately go for Perez? His knowledge of Mercedes equipment has played a big role, admits Marko: “Perez brings a lot of valuable information about Mercedes. As soon as they let him go at Racing Point, he naturally pricked up about Mercedes' work on that team. We therefore hope from his side for a lot of input in this regard. '
In the end, Hülkenberg was only inferior to Perez in one area, and that is the fact that Perez brings knowledge about the Mercedes engine, 'suggests Marko. certainly a serious candidate for that seat for us. '
"It was a relatively short contract negotiation, we have an agreement for one year", Marko explains the fast deal that Red Bull and Perez have concluded. 'If he receives other offers at the end of our collaboration, we can still intervene,' concludes Marko, who does not rule out hijackers at the end of 2021.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/75487/ma ... honda.htmlThe Honda engine will have significantly more power in 2021. Mercedes has reliability issues and they need to look at their problem with the MGU-K. What Honda has promised us is coming and we also expect a big improvement in the driveability and clipping of the bike, '' said Helmut Marko at ServusTV.
https://f1-insider.com/f1/f1-news-marko ... ulkenberg/The British Red Bull team principal Christian Horner (47) is known for giving English journalists his own perspective on things.
So also after the signing of Sergio Perez. Then he let the reporters from the island know that neither Sebastian Vettel nor Nico Hülkenberg were serious candidates for the place in the shadow of Max Verstappen.
That is why Marko also relativizes the statements of the governor at F1-Insider.com. Marko: “Hulkenberg was definitely a serious candidate.
We carefully analyzed the strengths and weaknesses of the three candidates Alexander Albon, Sergio Perez and Nico Hülkenberg.
In the end, only one thing was decisive for Perez towards Hülkenberg: He was able to bring most of the knowledge about the Mercedes engine with him.
Unfortunately, Nico Hülkenberg didn't have enough appearances this season. "
Good for Red Bull: their savior, Verstappen, could live with it. Although he would have preferred to see the German who, in his opinion, is mentally stronger, the signing of the Mexican Perez is the lesser evil for the Dutchman.
this is pretty contradictory and makes no sense.Wouter wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 14:47Another article.
https://f1-insider.com/f1/f1-news-marko ... ulkenberg/The British Red Bull team principal Christian Horner (47) is known for giving English journalists his own perspective on things.
So also after the signing of Sergio Perez. Then he let the reporters from the island know that neither Sebastian Vettel nor Nico Hülkenberg were serious candidates for the place in the shadow of Max Verstappen.
That is why Marko also relativizes the statements of the governor at F1-Insider.com. Marko: “Hulkenberg was definitely a serious candidate.
We carefully analyzed the strengths and weaknesses of the three candidates Alexander Albon, Sergio Perez and Nico Hülkenberg.
In the end, only one thing was decisive for Perez towards Hülkenberg: He was able to bring most of the knowledge about the Mercedes engine with him.
Unfortunately, Nico Hülkenberg didn't have enough appearances this season. "
Good for Red Bull: their savior, Verstappen, could live with it. Although he would have preferred to see the German who, in his opinion, is mentally stronger, the signing of the Mexican Perez is the lesser evil for the Dutchman.
No, this is definitely not a translation error. I have seen the German/Austrian broadcast and I speak the German language. Moreover, this has already been on several reliable sites before the broadcast last night. Helmut Marko is always straightforward and honest.Manoah2u wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 15:40.Wouter wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 14:47Another article.
https://f1-insider.com/f1/f1-news-marko ... ulkenberg/The British Red Bull team principal Christian Horner (47) is known for giving English journalists his own perspective on things.
So also after the signing of Sergio Perez. Then he let the reporters from the island know that neither Sebastian Vettel nor Nico Hülkenberg were serious candidates for the place in the shadow of Max Verstappen.
That is why Marko also relativizes the statements of the governor at F1-Insider.com. Marko: “Hulkenberg was definitely a serious candidate.
We carefully analyzed the strengths and weaknesses of the three candidates Alexander Albon, Sergio Perez and Nico Hülkenberg.
In the end, only one thing was decisive for Perez towards Hülkenberg: He was able to bring most of the knowledge about the Mercedes engine with him.
Unfortunately, Nico Hülkenberg didn't have enough appearances this season. "
Good for Red Bull: their savior, Verstappen, could live with it. Although he would have preferred to see the German who, in his opinion, is mentally stronger, the signing of the Mexican Perez is the lesser evil for the Dutchman.
this is pretty contradictory and makes no sense.
Horner claims that Hulkenberg never was a serious candidate,
and then Marko claims Hulkenberg was definately a serious candidate.
something doesn't add up here. perhaps a translation error?
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It looks like everything is ok with Honda and Redbull. Its all about freezing engines. If engines freezed Honda will be as if they are not quit.Wouter wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 18:29Marko and Max yesterday at Servus Tv. Photos. Thanks to @ Maxv1stappen.
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I mentioned my thoughts in another thread, that the merc we and other teams see is the one shown to us.godlameroso wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 22:26Will Mercedes still have a half second advantage? The RB16 chassis was catching Mercedes even before Mercedes decided to switch focus. Mercedes is changing the front end of their car, or at least that's where they're spending their tokens. RB16 is spending them in the rear? If the Honda engine makes inroads on Mercedes, and Mercedes doesn't make a big step with the chassis, it's very likely they can get caught. Then again, Mercedes always seems to be a step ahead of everyone. It's hard to even picture them struggling.
One thing that Red Bull learned the hard way is that you can't just rely on simulations to develop a car, at some point rubber has to meet the road. Red Bull developed heavily this year, they tested and validated a lot of things, and used track running to develop the car. With a lot of back to back races, and some races ran on the same venue allowed teams to develop efficiently. Mercedes may have steps in their back pocket they never put on the car, and with more time could probably refine them further. However, Mercedes were unable to validate any of their planned steps on track. They have to keep them in their pocket and they exist in the wind tunnel and virtual world.Big Tea wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 22:39I mentioned my thoughts in another thread, that the merc we and other teams see is the one shown to us.godlameroso wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 22:26Will Mercedes still have a half second advantage? The RB16 chassis was catching Mercedes even before Mercedes decided to switch focus. Mercedes is changing the front end of their car, or at least that's where they're spending their tokens. RB16 is spending them in the rear? If the Honda engine makes inroads on Mercedes, and Mercedes doesn't make a big step with the chassis, it's very likely they can get caught. Then again, Mercedes always seems to be a step ahead of everyone. It's hard to even picture them struggling.
Is it the one sent out to be just better than the Red bull?
We have seen the way they misguide everyone in their videos so why should they change now?
If they have an upgrade available every month, but after the second month they are still just infront of anyone else, do they release the next upgrade, or put it on a back shelf until it is needed and get on with the next months work?
They could easily be 4 or 5 releases behind what is ready to go, and still have the winter to refine things.
Or they could have taken things as far as they can go and are scratching for an extra 1%.
Of course there is not substitute for track time, but I still suspect Merc of letting us all see what we want to see, be that better or worse.godlameroso wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 23:04One thing that Red Bull learned the hard way is that you can't just rely on simulations to develop a car, at some point rubber has to meet the road. Red Bull developed heavily this year, they tested and validated a lot of things, and used track running to develop the car. With a lot of back to back races, and some races ran on the same venue allowed teams to develop efficiently. Mercedes may have steps in their back pocket they never put on the car, and with more time could probably refine them further. However, Mercedes were unable to validate any of their planned steps on track. They have to keep them in their pocket and they exist in the wind tunnel and virtual world.Big Tea wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 22:39I mentioned my thoughts in another thread, that the merc we and other teams see is the one shown to us.godlameroso wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 22:26Will Mercedes still have a half second advantage? The RB16 chassis was catching Mercedes even before Mercedes decided to switch focus. Mercedes is changing the front end of their car, or at least that's where they're spending their tokens. RB16 is spending them in the rear? If the Honda engine makes inroads on Mercedes, and Mercedes doesn't make a big step with the chassis, it's very likely they can get caught. Then again, Mercedes always seems to be a step ahead of everyone. It's hard to even picture them struggling.
Is it the one sent out to be just better than the Red bull?
We have seen the way they misguide everyone in their videos so why should they change now?
If they have an upgrade available every month, but after the second month they are still just infront of anyone else, do they release the next upgrade, or put it on a back shelf until it is needed and get on with the next months work?
They could easily be 4 or 5 releases behind what is ready to go, and still have the winter to refine things.
Or they could have taken things as far as they can go and are scratching for an extra 1%.
There's no guarantee the virtual world will correlate exactly with the real one. To their credit, I'm sure Mercedes has the best facilities on the grid, probably the most advanced wind tunnel as well. Perhaps Red Bull had to do on track testing to keep up with Mercedes' virtual work because of the difference in budget and facilities.
