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Red Bull's Motorsport Consultant Helmut Marko said that they agreed with the Japanese manufacturer to continue using the Honda engine after 2021, but they expect the FIA to decide to freeze the engines for the official signature.
“Freezing engine development would be a smart step for Formula 1. All issues with Honda have been resolved, but the engine supply contract cannot be signed until we receive written guarantees from the FIA that the engines will be frozen. We expect this to come next week. "
Marko said that they do not have a plan B and if the engines are not frozen they can consider their future in sport.
Sadly I only see this going 1 way, engine freeze with performance balanceSnorked wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:01Development freeze vote to take place on Jan 25th
34 voters, including all teams, engine manufacturers, FIA and commercial rights holders.
https://racingnews365.com/formula-1-tea ... january-25
Majority of 27 required to secure an engine freeze.
FIA - 10 votes
Liberty - 10 votes
Teams - 1 vote
Engine M - 1 vote
Ferrari don’t want to be on par with Mercedes, but surpass them.the EDGE wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:37Sadly I only see this going 1 way, engine freeze with performance balanceSnorked wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:01Development freeze vote to take place on Jan 25th
34 voters, including all teams, engine manufacturers, FIA and commercial rights holders.
https://racingnews365.com/formula-1-tea ... january-25
Majority of 27 required to secure an engine freeze.
FIA - 10 votes
Liberty - 10 votes
Teams - 1 vote
Engine M - 1 vote
FIA 10 - want level playing field
F1 10 - want level playing field
RB 1 - want engine freeze
At - 1 want engine freest
Honda 1 - will side with RB/AT
Ferrari 2 - want to be on par with MB
HASS 1 - will side with Ferrari
AT 1 - will side with Ferrari
Total 27 - vote passed
Why would Merc not want a freeze? a locked in advantage.the EDGE wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:37Sadly I only see this going 1 way, engine freeze with performance balanceSnorked wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:01Development freeze vote to take place on Jan 25th
34 voters, including all teams, engine manufacturers, FIA and commercial rights holders.
https://racingnews365.com/formula-1-tea ... january-25
Majority of 27 required to secure an engine freeze.
FIA - 10 votes
Liberty - 10 votes
Teams - 1 vote
Engine M - 1 vote
FIA 10 - want level playing field
F1 10 - want level playing field
RB 1 - want engine freeze
At - 1 want engine freest
Honda 1 - will side with RB/AT
Ferrari 2 - want to be on par with MB
HASS 1 - will side with Ferrari
AT 1 - will side with Ferrari
Total 27 - vote passed
They would, but Ferrari would veto it, as there’s no way they’ll put up with a power deficit locked in for a few yearsBig Tea wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 21:32Why would Merc not want a freeze? a locked in advantage.the EDGE wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:37Sadly I only see this going 1 way, engine freeze with performance balanceSnorked wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:01Development freeze vote to take place on Jan 25th
34 voters, including all teams, engine manufacturers, FIA and commercial rights holders.
https://racingnews365.com/formula-1-tea ... january-25
Majority of 27 required to secure an engine freeze.
FIA - 10 votes
Liberty - 10 votes
Teams - 1 vote
Engine M - 1 vote
FIA 10 - want level playing field
F1 10 - want level playing field
RB 1 - want engine freeze
At - 1 want engine freest
Honda 1 - will side with RB/AT
Ferrari 2 - want to be on par with MB
HASS 1 - will side with Ferrari
AT 1 - will side with Ferrari
Total 27 - vote passed
You think that’s going to happen? The best Ferrari can hope for is to match, and if BOP happens they get that without spending a pennyLM10 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 21:18Ferrari don’t want to be on par with Mercedes, but surpass them.the EDGE wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:37Sadly I only see this going 1 way, engine freeze with performance balanceSnorked wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:01Development freeze vote to take place on Jan 25th
34 voters, including all teams, engine manufacturers, FIA and commercial rights holders.
https://racingnews365.com/formula-1-tea ... january-25
Majority of 27 required to secure an engine freeze.
FIA - 10 votes
Liberty - 10 votes
Teams - 1 vote
Engine M - 1 vote
FIA 10 - want level playing field
F1 10 - want level playing field
RB 1 - want engine freeze
At - 1 want engine freest
Honda 1 - will side with RB/AT
Ferrari 2 - want to be on par with MB
HASS 1 - will side with Ferrari
AT 1 - will side with Ferrari
Total 27 - vote passed
Their only motivation to agree on an engine freeze is bringing the new engine regs forward to 2024 instead of 2025.
Why are you so sure about that? Why shouldn't they be able to surpass them come 2022 or even 2023?the EDGE wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 21:39You think that’s going to happen? The best Ferrari can hope for is to match, and if BOP happens they get that without spending a pennyLM10 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 21:18Ferrari don’t want to be on par with Mercedes, but surpass them.the EDGE wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:37
Sadly I only see this going 1 way, engine freeze with performance balance
FIA 10 - want level playing field
F1 10 - want level playing field
RB 1 - want engine freeze
At - 1 want engine freest
Honda 1 - will side with RB/AT
Ferrari 2 - want to be on par with MB
HASS 1 - will side with Ferrari
AT 1 - will side with Ferrari
Total 27 - vote passed
Their only motivation to agree on an engine freeze is bringing the new engine regs forward to 2024 instead of 2025.
Because history says other wise, after 7 years there still 50bhp behindLM10 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 21:49Why are you so sure about that? Why shouldn't they be able to surpass them come 2022 or even 2023?
Alpine/Renault will be the biggest loser if they are indeed holding there new engine until 2022. All that work would be obsolete if they can’t introduce it.the EDGE wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:37Sadly I only see this going 1 way, engine freeze with performance balanceSnorked wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 20:01Development freeze vote to take place on Jan 25th
34 voters, including all teams, engine manufacturers, FIA and commercial rights holders.
https://racingnews365.com/formula-1-tea ... january-25
Majority of 27 required to secure an engine freeze.
FIA - 10 votes
Liberty - 10 votes
Teams - 1 vote
Engine M - 1 vote
FIA 10 - want level playing field
F1 10 - want level playing field
RB 1 - want engine freeze
At - 1 want engine freest
Honda 1 - will side with RB/AT
Ferrari 2 - want to be on par with MB
HASS 1 - will side with Ferrari
AT 1 - will side with Ferrari
Total 27 - vote passed