aMessageToCharlie wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 16:37
I dont think these 3 poles difference break the comparison.
The argument is, that it's easier to be error free in a dominant team, than in a lesser organization chasing the dominant team. And Lewis in 2011 vs. Lewis in 2017-2020 is a great example for that.
He has had a hard time in the slightly slower Mclaren, but ran away with it in the dominant Mercedes. Just like Seb had a hard time in the slightly slower Ferrari, but ran away with it in the dominant Red Bull.
F1 is a team sport and if the team isnt performing at 100%, then of course the driver will be at a disadvantage, making mistakes trying to make up the deficit. Same story in 2011 vs. 2017. It's easier to look good with the comfort of having the best team around you.
Objectively these seasons are as compareable as it gets and the results were quite similar.
So 2011 the Mclaren was 'slightly slower' as you say, like the Ferrari was in 2017.
Look at both years..... Look at the gaps.
Lets take Catalunya as its a good all round circuit.
2011 Spanish Grand Prix
Fastest Mclaren to fastest redbull 1 second in qualy.
2017 Spanish Grand Prix
Fastest Ferrari to fastest Mercedes 0.051
British GP 2011 gap was 1.5 seconds!
British GP 2017 gap was 0.547
And you call them the same, yeah ok buddy.
The 2011 RedBull was a proper dominant car, like the Merc in 14-16 or 19 and 20. The 17 and 18 years were very close, like the 2010 season