McLaren MCL35М Speculation Thread

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the EDGE wrote:
05 Feb 2021, 22:48
SmallSoldier wrote:
05 Feb 2021, 22:27
I’m guessing that Mclaren will also be without an S-Duct this season... It’s interesting that it has been the only team without one now for a few seasons.


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The S-duct exploits a loop hole in the regulations. No holes are allowed through the cockpit or the structural part of the nose, so the ducting from bottom to top passes between where the nose cone meets/attaches to the bulk head

Because of the way McLaren house the suspension, very high-up with the hydraulics on the outside of the bulk head it prevents them from running an S-duct as there is no room for the ducting to pass

They must believe their suspension set-up bring them a bigger gain than the S-duct would as it’s been that way for 4 or 5 years
Can you think of any substantial gains which the higher mounted suspension brings, relative to the lower ones?
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ryaan2904 wrote:
06 Feb 2021, 05:15
the EDGE wrote:
05 Feb 2021, 22:48
SmallSoldier wrote:
05 Feb 2021, 22:27
I’m guessing that Mclaren will also be without an S-Duct this season... It’s interesting that it has been the only team without one now for a few seasons.


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The S-duct exploits a loop hole in the regulations. No holes are allowed through the cockpit or the structural part of the nose, so the ducting from bottom to top passes between where the nose cone meets/attaches to the bulk head

Because of the way McLaren house the suspension, very high-up with the hydraulics on the outside of the bulk head it prevents them from running an S-duct as there is no room for the ducting to pass

They must believe their suspension set-up bring them a bigger gain than the S-duct would as it’s been that way for 4 or 5 years
Can you think of any substantial gains which the higher mounted suspension brings, relative to the lower ones?
The transmission is reinforced where the suspension is mounted, which adds bulk and takes up space. That space takes away aero performance because the area you open up if you move the suspension up higher is right in front of the diffuser. The more air you can channel to go over the diffuser, the higher the pressure in that region, and you get a greater pressure differential from the underside of the diffuser.
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ryaan2904 wrote:
06 Feb 2021, 05:15
the EDGE wrote:
05 Feb 2021, 22:48
SmallSoldier wrote:
05 Feb 2021, 22:27
I’m guessing that Mclaren will also be without an S-Duct this season... It’s interesting that it has been the only team without one now for a few seasons.


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The S-duct exploits a loop hole in the regulations. No holes are allowed through the cockpit or the structural part of the nose, so the ducting from bottom to top passes between where the nose cone meets/attaches to the bulk head

Because of the way McLaren house the suspension, very high-up with the hydraulics on the outside of the bulk head it prevents them from running an S-duct as there is no room for the ducting to pass

They must believe their suspension set-up bring them a bigger gain than the S-duct would as it’s been that way for 4 or 5 years
Can you think of any substantial gains which the higher mounted suspension brings, relative to the lower ones?
On the front suspension I believe it primarily allows for cleaner air flow

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the EDGE wrote:
06 Feb 2021, 11:14
ryaan2904 wrote:
06 Feb 2021, 05:15
the EDGE wrote:
05 Feb 2021, 22:48


The S-duct exploits a loop hole in the regulations. No holes are allowed through the cockpit or the structural part of the nose, so the ducting from bottom to top passes between where the nose cone meets/attaches to the bulk head

Because of the way McLaren house the suspension, very high-up with the hydraulics on the outside of the bulk head it prevents them from running an S-duct as there is no room for the ducting to pass

They must believe their suspension set-up bring them a bigger gain than the S-duct would as it’s been that way for 4 or 5 years
Can you think of any substantial gains which the higher mounted suspension brings, relative to the lower ones?
On the front suspension I believe it primarily allows for cleaner air flow
You could also argue that a lower suspension mounting point cleans up the airflow over the sidepods and the chassis overall
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ryaan2904 wrote:
06 Feb 2021, 18:40
the EDGE wrote:
06 Feb 2021, 11:14
ryaan2904 wrote:
06 Feb 2021, 05:15

Can you think of any substantial gains which the higher mounted suspension brings, relative to the lower ones?
On the front suspension I believe it primarily allows for cleaner air flow
You could also argue that a lower suspension mounting point cleans up the airflow over the sidepods and the chassis overall
Most teams found that improving the quality of the airflow lower down around the base of the side-pods improves the diffuser efficiency. It's why they go to so much trouble with barge-boards etc.
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_cerber1 wrote:
10 Feb 2021, 10:50
I don’t like any of them. For me the original Mcl34 launch scheme was by far the best livery, before they added more black

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the EDGE wrote:
10 Feb 2021, 10:56
_cerber1 wrote:
10 Feb 2021, 10:50
I don’t like any of them. For me the original Mcl34 launch scheme was by far the best livery, before they added more black
Same here. Not a fan of any of them. The orange and black looks too like a Renault from the last few years, the one with the white looks way too busy - a case of less is more should apply. I like the original orange and blue livery too. It was different and the blue sung in sunlight.
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Same Here...

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Good! I'll talk to the team, we will prepare a new livery by February 15th. :roll:

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_cerber1 wrote:
10 Feb 2021, 14:33
Good! I'll talk to the team, we will prepare a new livery by February 15th. :roll:
Can you ask the MSO branch to take care of this please... they do such a good job with the road car specials

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_cerber1 wrote:
10 Feb 2021, 10:50
I love all of them. The one that is only papaya and black feels too F2 for me though. The one with white is completely brilliant. I wonder how that would look with chrome instead of white, since it's a Mercedes now after all. 😏
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6 of 12 wrote:
10 Feb 2021, 16:20
_cerber1 wrote:
10 Feb 2021, 10:50
I love all of them. The one that is only papaya and black feels too F2 for me though. The one with white is completely brilliant. I wonder how that would look with chrome instead of white, since it's a Mercedes now after all. 😏
Yeah silver outline on the black and orange version would be interesting, with more black on top of the engine cover.
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I made this concept a couple weeks ago, we had hints of black from McLaren so I thought id add some to my concept
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charliesmithhd wrote:
10 Feb 2021, 20:11
I made this concept a couple weeks ago, we had hints of black from McLaren so I thought id add some to my concept
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Et4lOYtWgAE ... me=900x900
It’s very good work, but fin honest I don’t want anymore black than what’s on the car now, and I want at least some artistic effort to go into it, not just straight lines or paints individual components