Interesting that one of the background displays had the date as Jan 25 -- looks like they are a couple of weeks ahead of their public proclamations.
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So the car will have been Dyno tested already and they will have more of an idea of what they have built.
Perhaps it will just be used for the Mclaren swoosh, which I personally think would be a nice touch on the car.
Agreed, it’s too bad testing is only 3 days, for obvious reasons. But I get the impression that the powers that be don’t realise how fans value those days and how it’s followed.mwillems wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 00:18So the car will have been Dyno tested already and they will have more of an idea of what they have built.
It feels like this last few months has flown by and the new season is almost here. I can't wait to see the paint job and to see those three days of testing.
I can't wait to see all the professional Analysis of the car designs too, which invariably turns out to be misjudged. but I'll read it anyway....
You & I & everyone reading this values those days dearly, but sadly I imagine we make up a very small percentage of the people who watch F1Ground Effect wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 07:53[quote=mwillems post_id=951535
Agreed, it’s too bad testing is only 3 days, for obvious reasons. But I get the impression that the powers that be don’t realise how fans value those days and how it’s followed.
Whilst I did enjoy testing, it does always feel a bit empty as you couldn't take too much away from it bar some unfounded hopes and fears and the fact that our front end wasn't as strong as we'd like....the EDGE wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 11:43You & I & everyone reading this values those days dearly, but sadly I imagine we make up a very small percentage of the people who watch F1Ground Effect wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 07:53[quote=mwillems post_id=951535
Agreed, it’s too bad testing is only 3 days, for obvious reasons. But I get the impression that the powers that be don’t realise how fans value those days and how it’s followed.
mwillems wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 11:49Whilst I did enjoy testing, it does always feel a bit empty as you couldn't take too much away from it bar some unfounded hopes and fears and the fact that our front end wasn't as strong as we'd like....the EDGE wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 11:43You & I & everyone reading this values those days dearly, but sadly I imagine we make up a very small percentage of the people who watch F1Ground Effect wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 07:53[quote=mwillems post_id=951535
Agreed, it’s too bad testing is only 3 days, for obvious reasons. But I get the impression that the powers that be don’t realise how fans value those days and how it’s followed.
On that note, someone posed the query as to whether the floor changes will reduce our front end issues. But thinking about it...
Won't the floor changes reduce the overall downforce from the floor, meaning that the rear and front wings constitute a greater percentage of our downforce than before (Assuming that the floor downforce has a relatively equal effect over the whole of the car, if not completely equal). Therefore, the difference between front and rear grip may become more exaggerated if we don't resolve the issue?
And another thought, what kind of strategy will the team employ for testing? I'm going to imagine there will be few Qualy simulations as Mclaren test for reliability and installation issues. Other teams won't need to do that so much. They will do some aero testing and some fast laps I'd imagine as the cars are tested from last year. 2 drivers per day and the absolute maximum of laps achieved I would think for Mclaren, they will be absolutely burning the midnight oil.
Can they bring a reserve car in case of issues?
Ahh OK. How is it that it is predominantly rear downforce being lost if it is the floor that is losing efficiency?mclaren111 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 12:18mwillems wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 11:49Whilst I did enjoy testing, it does always feel a bit empty as you couldn't take too much away from it bar some unfounded hopes and fears and the fact that our front end wasn't as strong as we'd like....
On that note, someone posed the query as to whether the floor changes will reduce our front end issues. But thinking about it...
Won't the floor changes reduce the overall downforce from the floor, meaning that the rear and front wings constitute a greater percentage of our downforce than before (Assuming that the floor downforce has a relatively equal effect over the whole of the car, if not completely equal). Therefore, the difference between front and rear grip may become more exaggerated if we don't resolve the issue?
And another thought, what kind of strategy will the team employ for testing? I'm going to imagine there will be few Qualy simulations as Mclaren test for reliability and installation issues. Other teams won't need to do that so much. They will do some aero testing and some fast laps I'd imagine as the cars are tested from last year. 2 drivers per day and the absolute maximum of laps achieved I would think for Mclaren, they will be absolutely burning the midnight oil.
Can they bring a reserve car in case of issues?
I posed the question...
My thinking was that with the new narrow nose & associated improvements and a rules reduction in Rear Downforce, it should be easier to find an optimum balance & therefore a quicker car overall...
Since when are McLaren using a Mercedes gearbox & fitting their rear suspension?
No, Williams are taking the Merc gearbox next year but there are no plans to run their suspension next year at presentpazazamadaz wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 13:27Yeah I was going to ask the same. I'm pretty sure they aren't and it's a mix up with Williams. I think they are taking the merc gearbox this year and maybe the rear suspension as well.
mwillems wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 12:43Ahh OK. How is it that it is predominantly rear downforce being lost if it is the floor that is losing efficiency?mclaren111 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 12:18mwillems wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 11:49
Whilst I did enjoy testing, it does always feel a bit empty as you couldn't take too much away from it bar some unfounded hopes and fears and the fact that our front end wasn't as strong as we'd like....
On that note, someone posed the query as to whether the floor changes will reduce our front end issues. But thinking about it...
Won't the floor changes reduce the overall downforce from the floor, meaning that the rear and front wings constitute a greater percentage of our downforce than before (Assuming that the floor downforce has a relatively equal effect over the whole of the car, if not completely equal). Therefore, the difference between front and rear grip may become more exaggerated if we don't resolve the issue?
And another thought, what kind of strategy will the team employ for testing? I'm going to imagine there will be few Qualy simulations as Mclaren test for reliability and installation issues. Other teams won't need to do that so much. They will do some aero testing and some fast laps I'd imagine as the cars are tested from last year. 2 drivers per day and the absolute maximum of laps achieved I would think for Mclaren, they will be absolutely burning the midnight oil.
Can they bring a reserve car in case of issues?
I posed the question...
My thinking was that with the new narrow nose & associated improvements and a rules reduction in Rear Downforce, it should be easier to find an optimum balance & therefore a quicker car overall...
That may be a stupid question, so apologies. It just that it appears to affect downforce over the whole of the car, but would enjoy finding out if that is not the case.
