2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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El Scorchio wrote:
16 Feb 2021, 00:23
Sieper wrote:
15 Feb 2021, 17:19
look at it from the positive side, you won't have to come here months and years after said events and complain about it again. and again, and... ....again. Do you think the people here haven't gotten the message after the Xth time you posted the same.
You need to be able to accept critical opinion. It is allowed. There is plenty on all the team threads.
It is 2021. You are talking (still) about 2018 and one of the guys (Abiteboul) involved in the slug match is not even employed by Renault anymore (nor is that team still called Renault). At some point it is time to stop it. You are Ofcourse allowed to post but do you see me posting on Ferrari threads shitting all over their struggles from years gone by? Over and over again.do you think anybody here does not sufficiently know your standpoint yet? Let me ensure you, they do.

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Sieper wrote:
16 Feb 2021, 13:57
El Scorchio wrote:
16 Feb 2021, 00:23
Sieper wrote:
15 Feb 2021, 17:19
look at it from the positive side, you won't have to come here months and years after said events and complain about it again. and again, and... ....again. Do you think the people here haven't gotten the message after the Xth time you posted the same.
You need to be able to accept critical opinion. It is allowed. There is plenty on all the team threads.
It is 2021. You are talking (still) about 2018 and one of the guys (Abiteboul) involved in the slug match is not even employed by Renault anymore (nor is that team still called Renault). At some point it is time to stop it. You are Ofcourse allowed to post but do you see me posting on Ferrari threads shitting all over their struggles from years gone by? Over and over again.do you think anybody here does not sufficiently know your standpoint yet? Let me ensure you, they do.
The past is discussed plenty on here. Given RBR are going from a customer team to a works team, it's not entirely inappropriate to mention this move can put an end to past issues which derailed the team, and which I happen to feel although there was fault on both sides, was handled unprofessionally.

You seem to want to just shut down any sort of comment or opinion you don't like.

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I have to admit, Red Bull’s dedication to the sport is incredible. A less dedicated team would have thrown the towel in 2018 at the latest.

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El Scorchio wrote:
17 Feb 2021, 02:56
Sieper wrote:
16 Feb 2021, 13:57
El Scorchio wrote:
16 Feb 2021, 00:23


You need to be able to accept critical opinion. It is allowed. There is plenty on all the team threads.
It is 2021. You are talking (still) about 2018 and one of the guys (Abiteboul) involved in the slug match is not even employed by Renault anymore (nor is that team still called Renault). At some point it is time to stop it. You are Ofcourse allowed to post but do you see me posting on Ferrari threads shitting all over their struggles from years gone by? Over and over again.do you think anybody here does not sufficiently know your standpoint yet? Let me ensure you, they do.
The past is discussed plenty on here. Given RBR are going from a customer team to a works team, it's not entirely inappropriate to mention this move can put an end to past issues which derailed the team, and which I happen to feel although there was fault on both sides, was handled unprofessionally.

You seem to want to just shut down any sort of comment or opinion you don't like.
RBR has essentially been a "works" team since it started using Honda power units. The dysfunction you speak of hasn't been an issue in the past two seasons. RBR issues these past two years has largely been due to front wing aero regulation changes and aero in-balance. Of course there were the power unit issues that Max had in a number of races last year, but that has nothing to do with being a works or customer team. The power units will still be Honda PUs, maintained by a number of "in-house" and acquired engineers, where as development will be few and far between, now frozen by regulations. So whatever derailment you insinuate as being the fault of being a customer team isn't going to be solved auto-magically by achieving works-status, especially if there hasn't been any recent dysfunction that required any fixing.

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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."~William Shakespeare

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El Scorchio wrote:
17 Feb 2021, 02:56
Sieper wrote:
16 Feb 2021, 13:57
El Scorchio wrote:
16 Feb 2021, 00:23


You need to be able to accept critical opinion. It is allowed. There is plenty on all the team threads.
It is 2021. You are talking (still) about 2018 and one of the guys (Abiteboul) involved in the slug match is not even employed by Renault anymore (nor is that team still called Renault). At some point it is time to stop it. You are Ofcourse allowed to post but do you see me posting on Ferrari threads shitting all over their struggles from years gone by? Over and over again.do you think anybody here does not sufficiently know your standpoint yet? Let me ensure you, they do.
The past is discussed plenty on here. Given RBR are going from a customer team to a works team, it's not entirely inappropriate to mention this move can put an end to past issues which derailed the team, and which I happen to feel although there was fault on both sides, was handled unprofessionally.

You seem to want to just shut down any sort of comment or opinion you don't like.
No, what you are now saying is to me in a different tone and I understand that as well. What you were saying before came across totally different for me. I think you wrote this in another mind set as before, and that is fine by me. What I was hoping for. Constructive criticism is welcome, hammering on and on (on events long gone by) to vent, is what I think nobody wants to see.

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Yesterday Max was at The Red Bull Atlethe Performance Center in Thalgau, near Salzburg.
Pierre Gasley and Nico Hulkenberg were also there.

Great article about the Red Bull APC.
At the very bottom is described what the center is equipped with! Wow! :

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... e-21156296

It is open to all Red Bull-sponsored athletes, where they can be evaluated, worked with and looked after by a team of performance and medical experts, with the aims of maximising individual potential, increasing performance and injury prevention.
With coaches, experts and medical staff who work in the fields of strength and conditioning, physiotherapy, mental performance, nutrition, research and development and environmental consulting, it is a specialised, yet also wide-reaching venue, aimed at delivering world class results.
Whether it is movement data being analysed and biomechanics worked on to prevent injury, sleep strategies put in place to ensure maximum recovery, full medical checks and even mental performance consultation, no stone is left unturned.


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There is a rumor that Redbull will launch the car next week and will make a filming day.

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etusch wrote:
18 Feb 2021, 13:19
There is a rumor that Redbull will launch the car next week and will make a filming day.
I heard a rumor too and that is that Perez will drive the RB15 one or two days at Silverstone next week,
when the weather allows it.
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etusch wrote:
18 Feb 2021, 13:19
There is a rumor that Redbull will launch the car next week and will make a filming day.
There's 10 days left in this month, if it's March 1st that would make the car launch next Friday. March 4th would make the launch on a Monday. A week after that we go testing.
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The reason Nico is allowed to train in the RB APC is that he is close to an agreement with Servus TV. This Austrian private broadcaster is part of the Red Bull empire and will broadcast (alternately) the Formula 1 races in Austria together with ORF.
Last season, Nico Hülkenberg was connected to RTL as an analyst, but they are only allowed to broadcast four races this season. Probably because of Mick Schumacher.

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a nice association between the year and the team and the championship hint


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etusch wrote:
18 Feb 2021, 21:53
a nice association between the year and the team and the championship hint

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLL0a-0Bqvt ... _copy_link
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