General Honda F1 Topic

[mzso]

Yeah, well. But Merc can do it last year. We will see. Soon enough.

I don't think they had a lot of power advantage, they just had the outright best car, from practically all aspects.

[Sieper]

Mmmmmh.

Imused to believe that. Until I saw Ferrari jump down into the low midfield this year. The car was improved though, the engine power down by 55-75 rumoured.

I still think even a 5 hp difference is significant. And Ofcourse deployment and torgue even more so.

[GhostF1]

Mmmmmh.

Imused to believe that. Until I saw Ferrari jump down into the low midfield this year. The car was improved though, the engine power down by 55-75 rumoured.

I still think even a 5 hp difference is significant. And Ofcourse deployment and torgue even more so.

Based on Honda's comments and a lot from the drivers and teams, fairly obvious now that Honda were never really lacking in outright power but their ERS deployment was their Achilles heel.

The fact they said they tried an entirely new deployment strat for Abu Dhabi and seeing the result they got is almost proof enough. If they have indeed found a big step in their first major PU overhaul since 2017, with a new ERS and Turbo in combination with improved ICE power, I can see them being a force.

I'm excited for testing, it being so short this year, I can't see anyone really affording to "sandbag" and seeing as the first race is also at Bahrain only 2 weeks later, one would assume teams would treat at least the end as a lengthened practice session for it. Who knows!

I'm just aching to hear them in anger again

[Wouter]

WHAT A BEAUTY. With the Honda logo in the rear wing, it's just splendid.
Welcome RB16B and let's go guys. Keep pushing .

[Marti_EF3]

Finally a big HONDA on the rear wing! Shame it will be only one year...

[Wouter]

[dren]

The truth is no one on the outside knows how much hosepower these cars have been adding. Honer might be blabbering off his mouth with figures.. But it was interesting that James Keys says the engines are much much closer than we think.

I'd assume they are all within a percent or so of each other sans the Ferrari last year which took a noticeable hit. I figure they'll still be down relative to the others, but not as much. There is so much that ties into the PU's overall performance. I really wish we knew how much fuel each car started and ended with.

[Wouter]

[Wouter]

Perez in the RB15 today at Silverstone with the sound of the Honda engine.

[ispano6]

I suppose that the main purpose is practice, but there is probably some good feedback that both drivers can give with their impressions of drivability - Perez with his comparison to the Mercedes powertrain and Yūki with personal feedback and tendencies in the native language (no nuances lost in translation!).

[etusch]

I suppose that the main purpose is practice, but there is probably some good feedback that both drivers can give with their impressions of drivability - Perez with his comparison to the Mercedes powertrain and Yūki with personal feedback and tendencies in the native language (no nuances lost in translation!).

Good point

[_cerber1]

Do you really believe that a multinational company like Honda has problems with the English language? Wazari, on the other hand, said that many foreign specialists work even in the motor department, and I strongly doubt that they all learned Japanese.

[shingles]

Do you really believe that a multinational company like Honda has problems with the English language? Wazari, on the other hand, said that many foreign specialists work even in the motor department, and I strongly doubt that they all learned Japanese.

There ARE nuances that are difficult to translate. His comment was that if spoken in native tongue, those nuances won’t get lost in translation. Lost in translation IS a thing. Japanese (and to a large degree Chinese) is difficult to translate to/from English.

[ispano6]

Do you really believe that a multinational company like Honda has problems with the English language? Wazari, on the other hand, said that many foreign specialists work even in the motor department, and I strongly doubt that they all learned Japanese.

I don't believe, I know. How many Japanese drivers in the current F1 hybrid era have driven the Honda power unit to be able to give detailed feedback to Honda engineers? Just one, when Yamamoto Naoki drove for Toro Rosso in Japan FP1. You see, Japanese people who speak only Japanese are terrible at English, and believe it or not even the ones who do speak English well can only translate the English they hear and understand into a very basic translation to Japanese. The nuances in the language often times don't translate either, because some of them just don't have the equivalent ways of saying things. Listen to the talking speed and amount of vocabulary Tsunoda uses between English and Japanese. His diction is limited to his English, where as his Japanese flows out.

[etusch]

sometimes native language is also not enough to tell something, at least for me