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[Fer.Fan]

Ferrari running lights and cameras to look at the gap between the rear tyres and diffuser, as the tyre flex and deform.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwV7vZnW8Ak ... name=large

The hot air outlet looks super chunky from certain angles....compare that to Mercedes How in the world can Ferrari bee that far off behind regarding cooling? I can’t understand.

[aleks_ader]

Ferrari running lights and cameras to look at the gap between the rear tyres and diffuser, as the tyre flex and deform.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwV7vZnW8Ak ... name=large

The hot air outlet looks super chunky from certain angles....compare that to Mercedes How in the world can Ferrari bee that far off behind regarding cooling? I can’t understand.

Now is priority power from PU. So yeah this kind of comments are not good for discussion. Plus second side-effect they could take is reduction of overall drag in sidepods (let say there are 2 ways to skin a cat). Its pretty natural way when u got lower power than opposition. Good and quite effective way to achieve same goal - less hindrance on straight track segments. So you could increase rads and use more air for run Pu harder or u are reducing drag and run PU less.

[Fer.Fan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwV7vZnW8Ak ... name=large

The hot air outlet looks super chunky from certain angles....compare that to Mercedes How in the world can Ferrari bee that far off behind regarding cooling? I can’t understand.

Now is priority power from PU. So yeah this kind of comments are not good for discussion. Plus second side-effect they could take is reduction of overall drag in sidepods (let say there are 2 ways to skin a cat). Its pretty natural way when u got lower power than opposition. Good and quite effective way to achieve same goal - less hindrance on straight track segments. So you could increase rads and use more air for run Pu harder or u are reducing drag and run PU less.

Good point, thank you
But in F1 nothing is for free. By incresing air outlets Ferrari are losing aero efficiency at the rear.

[Chuckjr]

Ferrari running lights and cameras to look at the gap between the rear tyres and diffuser, as the tyre flex and deform.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwV7vZnW8Ak ... name=large

The hot air outlet looks super chunky from certain angles....compare that to Mercedes How in the world can Ferrari bee that far off behind regarding cooling? I can’t understand.

Rest assured. There are engineers who have spent countless hours figuring the best possible solution for the overall design goals of the car. This is their solution. We will know a general idea of order after a couple Q3’s, and a couple races. Until then, who is to say their design is less than or behind any other team on the track? Car looks spectacular imo.

[zioture]

[ryaan2904]

https://twitter.com/Graftechweb/status/ ... 9929986049

That Ferrari looks very clean at the rear

[Sevach]

So more Red Bull style? Do you think the aero benefit will still be sizeable? Or will it be smaller than we saw with the Mercedes?

Also, Ferrari apparently spent their tokens on the gearbox/gearbox casing, how are they then allowed to play with the suspension like this? Doesn't changing rear suspension require a different set of tokens? I don't understand the token system fully

Maybe it's one token for the box and another for the suspension structure, but you end up having to use both because if you change the box you are gonna need to change the suspension too.

Red Bull now is very similar to the Merc, Ferrari is a lot more conventional than they are, for whatever reason didn't think that was the way to go.
Some people have mentioned that the Merc suspension lower arm attaches to the impact structure and not the gearbox so teams would need 3 tokens to fully reproduce it, yet Red Bull managed to do a very close fac-simile, so i'm not buying that... Ferrari just went a more conventional direction.

[JPBD1990]

Sainz 13 lap stint on C3. Consistent, but 1:39’s is slow.

out
1: 39.140
1: 39.392
1: 39.205
1: 39.062
1: 39.061
1: 38.974
1: 39.886
1: 39.515
1: 39.420
1: 39.844
1: 39.934
in

Tsunoda did a similar length stint on c3 also in the 1:36’s-1:37’s

[Mr.G]

Is this amount of movement common for rear wing under load? It looks like it is more than suspension squat.

[bucker]

https://papermodelers.sk:443/download/i ... 772879bb1f

https://papermodelers.sk:443/download/i ... 241d820b1e

Is this amount of movement common for rear wing under load? It looks like it is more than suspension squat.

This is mostly suspension movement under higher load.

On the straight at the pitlane exit you can see, how stable car remains going over bump.

[Fer.Fan]

Sainz 13 lap stint on C3. Consistent, but 1:39’s is slow.

out
1: 39.140
1: 39.392
1: 39.205
1: 39.062
1: 39.061
1: 38.974
1: 39.886
1: 39.515
1: 39.420
1: 39.844
1: 39.934
in

Tsunoda did a similar length stint on c3 also in the 1:36’s-1:37’s

conclusion: Ferrari are 2-3 sec per lap slower then AT.

[ferkan]

So more Red Bull style? Do you think the aero benefit will still be sizeable? Or will it be smaller than we saw with the Mercedes?

Also, Ferrari apparently spent their tokens on the gearbox/gearbox casing, how are they then allowed to play with the suspension like this? Doesn't changing rear suspension require a different set of tokens? I don't understand the token system fully

Maybe it's one token for the box and another for the suspension structure, but you end up having to use both because if you change the box you are gonna need to change the suspension too.

Red Bull now is very similar to the Merc, Ferrari is a lot more conventional than they are, for whatever reason didn't think that was the way to go.
Some people have mentioned that the Merc suspension lower arm attaches to the impact structure and not the gearbox so teams would need 3 tokens to fully reproduce it, yet Red Bull managed to do a very close fac-simile, so i'm not buying that... Ferrari just went a more conventional direction.

Color me surprised.

[wowgr8]

Maybe it's one token for the box and another for the suspension structure, but you end up having to use both because if you change the box you are gonna need to change the suspension too.

Red Bull now is very similar to the Merc, Ferrari is a lot more conventional than they are, for whatever reason didn't think that was the way to go.
Some people have mentioned that the Merc suspension lower arm attaches to the impact structure and not the gearbox so teams would need 3 tokens to fully reproduce it, yet Red Bull managed to do a very close fac-simile, so i'm not buying that... Ferrari just went a more conventional direction.

I think Ferrari and Red Bull did the same thing, lengthening he gearbox casing and attaching it to that. Red Bull couldn't have done it the Mercedes way because changing the rear crash structure would've required more tokens

[wowgr8]

Here's the 3 for comparison, I don't have a technical eye so someone more tech minded should be the one to decipher this

[JPower]

Sainz 13 lap stint on C3. Consistent, but 1:39’s is slow.

out
1: 39.140
1: 39.392
1: 39.205
1: 39.062
1: 39.061
1: 38.974
1: 39.886
1: 39.515
1: 39.420
1: 39.844
1: 39.934
in

Tsunoda did a similar length stint on c3 also in the 1:36’s-1:37’s

Likelihood Sainz was running a higher fuel load: <high>