Thanks for the hint. Yes, the team name for Ricciardo was wrong. I've fixed it now.
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Pre-season testing lasted just three days and leaves many with even more questions than before the test. The same is valid for Pirelli, as weather conditions have somewhat reduced the potential usefulness of the collected tyre data.
let's hope so! It would be wonderful and long overdue to see them genuinely compete, and this car feels like a huge step in that direction, along with the new engine and an exciting driver line up. Ricciardo is a proven winner in the right circumstances. Hoping to see a shoey sometime in 2021.
If this is a roughly accurate snapshot, then this bodes will for Merc in the sense that the inherent pace is there.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 11:47It seems quite surprising that Mercedes single lap and race pace are so very different. Using those figures, one might expect RedBull to get a lot of poles but Mercedes to get a lot of wins, ceteris paribus.zibby43 wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 06:25F1 Testing Data from FOM
Single Lap Pace
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Race Pace
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If that does run through to the season, it could make for an interesting time for both teams, with strategy being key to either winning.
There were lots of videos of the Mercs not hitting 8th gear on the straights. I don't think they ever really turned the wick up.Marble wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 21:14Merc-equiped teams had best top speeds but Merc was amongst the slowest on the speed traps during perf runs. Low engine mode ? High DF and drag ?
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Sir PatStew!El Scorchio wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 15:53let's hope so! It would be wonderful and long overdue to see them genuinely compete, and this car feels like a huge step in that direction, along with the new engine and an exciting driver line up. Ricciardo is a proven winner in the right circumstances. Hoping to see a shoey sometime in 2021.
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Can someone explain to me why teams wouldn’t run their engines on full power during testing? My logic tells me that you want to find the (engine) limits in real world use to see how far you can push them. I would think that they might run them even at a higher mode than what they think should be the maximum to see what would fail first.
I guess that's all done on the dynos now, so they know the stress levels they can make the engines endure and how long for, way before they even get it near a track?SirBastianVettel wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 21:31Can someone explain to me why teams wouldn’t run their engines on full power during testing? My logic tells me that you want to find the (engine) limits in real world use to see how far you can push them. I would think that they might run them even at a higher mode than what they think should be the maximum to see what would fail first.
Haha! Sir Patrick Shoeart.Herr_Koos wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 21:23Sir PatStew!El Scorchio wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 15:53let's hope so! It would be wonderful and long overdue to see them genuinely compete, and this car feels like a huge step in that direction, along with the new engine and an exciting driver line up. Ricciardo is a proven winner in the right circumstances. Hoping to see a shoey sometime in 2021.
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My opinion: This was a risky test to try and find the limits of the engine, with only three available days. Let's assume you manage to blow it, what then? You're going to lose a huge chunk of time of an already very limited test window having to replace the power unit. I suspect they would rather use the dyno or a car test rig to find those limits.SirBastianVettel wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 21:31Can someone explain to me why teams wouldn’t run their engines on full power during testing? My logic tells me that you want to find the (engine) limits in real world use to see how far you can push them. I would think that they might run them even at a higher mode than what they think should be the maximum to see what would fail first.
You would think so, and I guess this is also the reality. But still. Max had a technical stoppage last year in the opening race. Any battle (which of course was never going to happen last year) was immediately done and dusted right there and then. So I would try the limits on track anyway.El Scorchio wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 21:45I guess that's all done on the dynos now, so they know the stress levels they can make the engines endure and how long for, way before they even get it near a track?SirBastianVettel wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 21:31Can someone explain to me why teams wouldn’t run their engines on full power during testing? My logic tells me that you want to find the (engine) limits in real world use to see how far you can push them. I would think that they might run them even at a higher mode than what they think should be the maximum to see what would fail first.
True, but you also can't learn anything about the performance of your car if it's parked in the garage all test because you pushed the PU too far.aleks_ader wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 21:52Only problem is u cannot fully simulate G forces on dynos and rolling test rigs.
You don't need to hit 8th gear to run at full power. if memory serves, you don't even have to run the proper gear ratios in testing. so you could push the engine hard, and never hit 8th gear.SirBastianVettel wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 21:31Can someone explain to me why teams wouldn’t run their engines on full power during testing? My logic tells me that you want to find the (engine) limits in real world use to see how far you can push them. I would think that they might run them even at a higher mode than what they think should be the maximum to see what would fail first.