Red Bull RB16B

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dxpetrov
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So many days after lunch and throughout the testing, and yet no one noticed how RB quietly gone back to almost 2019 level of reduced outboard wash profile of the front wing. They again rely on downforce that is generated by the wing, not just to directing air around front wheels.
Not sure how to post pics here, it would be great if someone could insert the Abu Dhabi RB16 and an RB16b here.

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SiLo
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aerofoilf1 wrote:
12 Mar 2021, 19:24
Front wing compare 2020 vs 2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwS6eNGWQAc ... name=large
Comparison here.
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Pany
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Well, harder tires may require a little more downforce....
SiLo wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:33
aerofoilf1 wrote:
12 Mar 2021, 19:24
Front wing compare 2020 vs 2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwS6eNGWQAc ... name=large
Comparison here.

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Zynerji
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SiLo wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 11:33
aerofoilf1 wrote:
12 Mar 2021, 19:24
Front wing compare 2020 vs 2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwS6eNGWQAc ... name=large
Comparison here.
There is so little difference between those wings, it almost looks like a settings change instead of a new wing...

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godlameroso
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Lots of little details are different.

Second element from the top is thicker on the 2021 wing, third element is thinner on 2021, and an extra support on the 4th.

Under wing strakes are different, and so is the end plate. This is aside from the added gurney and extra support to the inner part of the wing.
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zioture
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Diffuser compare vs 2020

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They also ran two diffusers in testing. V2 looks like it is more developed than V.

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Changes to bargeboard trailing edge position

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Cooling exit and rear suspension comparison. 2020 cooling exit from Bahrain race.

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Rear corner developments to suspension and brake wings

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jh199
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There's an interesting discussion on Reddit regarding Anti-Ackerman front steering on the car thanks to u/thejage. I don't know much about this topic but I found it interesting none the less

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https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Technical/co ... _red_bull/

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I'd say it's some weird perspective thing. Check some onboards, from there it always looks to be anti-ackermann.

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jh199
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MtthsMlw wrote:
24 Mar 2021, 20:09
I'd say it's some weird perspective thing. Check some onboards, from there it always looks to be anti-ackermann.
I guess anti-ackerman is actually normal in F1. Apparently the topic was discussed on this forum back in 2010! I just never realized I guess. The more you know

viewtopic.php?t=8874

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ScrewCaptain27
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The rear suspension is now multi-link:
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PlatinumZealot
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ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
25 Mar 2021, 13:55
The rear suspension is now multi-link:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202103 ... bce5a5.jpg
Not sure how accurate that is becsuse they did indeed have a rear multi-link suspension from last year already.
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Sieper
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I think it is accurate. count the number of black and white dots on the bottom. 1 more as last year and if you follow the hardware as shown on the drawings seems to be correct, but indeed, hard to say for sure.

But it could be that they had multi link already, and just changed the set-up. Perhaps even to "back" as before as AT is skipping the 2020 RB rear suspension and is holding on to the 2019.

By the way, mercedes does not have a pull rod to the front, they have them all going directly to the gearbox casing. Is that more advanced or simply a consequence of having lower rake? Or some other reason, rootcause still.