2021 Ferrari F1 Team

[wowgr8]

Are they using the new simulator already?

Not yet

I read that the simulator will be ready for the 2022 car. But would it make sense to use demo tires to collect data?

As long as the tyres are consistent then they're a solid baseline to test anything you want to test, they're not looking at performance, I think more correlation like the user above said

[ryaan2904]

Are they using the new simulator already?

Not yet

Earlier in the year I had read that Ferrari focused on simulator later in the 2020 season and that it was ready to use by December end/January

[ryaan2904]

Binotto's been saying a lot that they're now using the 'right tools'... maybe he's talking about the new simulator

[Partymood]

What's happening at Ferrari? I don't seem to remember so much outings with older cars in recent years around Fiorano?

Or can they test the precision of their new simulator? Checking if the data they receive from it correlates with the reality?

That's what I thought when I read the news... Or they are setting the simulator now and will test engines upgrades at a later stage.

[Partymood]

Or drivers and pit crew.
But surely they test something, it's not just about driver's training.
And apart from the demo tyres, maybe there are other elements that they can test. I don't know.
BATW, do we have a link for this story?

https://www.formulapassion.it/motorspor ... 59168.html

[wowgr8]

From the comments "well, it can always be understood as training for pilots and, if desired, to calibrate the new simulator starting with standard parameters and then, slowly, moving towards the SF21 data."

I agree with that. afaik the new sim is meant to be ready by mid-year so the timing sort of makes sense. Do the data collection now while there's big breaks between races and you have time. Like I said apparently Sainz will do his part after Imola but I'm not sure what the point of having two drivers do the same job is

[ryaan2904]

Can they be testing some new engine component in a modified sf71H? Its just a hunch but what else would you be testing for a whopping 400km distance?

[Xwang]

Can they be testing some new engine component in a modified sf71H? Its just a hunch but what else would you be testing for a whopping 400km distance?

I'm quite sure that for these tests Pirelli gives tyres with different proprieties and behaviour than those used at GPs.
They are the same tyres used for the filming days.
If Ferrari is collecting data to assess the correlation of the newest simulator to reality, IMHO 400km or more is needed to map the behaviour of these tyres and extract data to model them in the simulator.
The car used, its aerodynamics and its engine AFAIK cannot be modified and should be a known entity with proper simulator models.
The only unknowns are tyres and the simulator inner algorithms and interfaces which must be properly assessed before the simulator begin to be used as a development tool.

[ryaan2904]

Welp, Simulator it is then

[Sevach]

That's correct cars must be ran as they were.
Just adding something the SF71H is probably retired from that type of testing, since now Ferrari can use the SF90, the Bahrain 18 inch wheel test was already on a SF90.

[TechF1]

Did Ferrari switch to front compressor PU this year? Seem to remember they were going and they did but if feels like a dream now.

They will do next year.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-r ... ew-engine/

They will not for sure, the rumors are coming from a very well known as unreliable site.
Next year it's the last possible upgrade of these PU, just an insane engineer will work on a totally new engine system, without any possibility to further developing or fixing.

[gordonthegun]

Did Ferrari switch to front compressor PU this year? Seem to remember they were going and they did but if feels like a dream now.

They will do next year.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-r ... ew-engine/

They will not for sure, the rumors are coming from a very well known as unreliable site.
Next year it's the last possible upgrade of these PU, just an insane engineer will work on a totally new engine system, without any possibility to further developing or fixing.

Italian edition of motorsport.com says it and here in Italy we consider it for sure as a lot of local sources are talking about this.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-me ... 2/5578747/
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... 2/5360485/

[TechF1]

They will do next year.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-r ... ew-engine/

They will not for sure, the rumors are coming from a very well known as unreliable site.
Next year it's the last possible upgrade of these PU, just an insane engineer will work on a totally new engine system, without any possibility to further developing or fixing.

Italian edition of motorsport.com says it and here in Italy we consider it for sure as a lot of local sources are talking about this.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-me ... 2/5578747/
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... 2/5360485/

Are you kidding? It's a total bullsh*t from Nugnez, he wrote a lot about the "superfast" combustion, it never existed because Superfast it's a Ferrari's car name not a combustion. Many repost back his fantasies just to get attention from the numerous Ferrari's fans, but he never got a single real information.
He doesn't know the F1 regulamentations, he does not follow the F1 races, he just try to attract clicks.
It's insane think to rebuild a PU architecture just before an engine development freeze, it could possibly have been done maybe with this year PU, but they will not risk next seasons till 2025.
Anyway this it's a technichal forum not a place where to discuss about Nugnez visions or fans dreams and very soon this discussion will be deleted

[wowgr8]

Binotto: "Next year we will have a completely different configuration and our goal is not just to have bridged the gap, but to be the reference."

Renault have also said they're going split turbo next year

[gordonthegun]

They will not for sure, the rumors are coming from a very well known as unreliable site.
Next year it's the last possible upgrade of these PU, just an insane engineer will work on a totally new engine system, without any possibility to further developing or fixing.

Italian edition of motorsport.com says it and here in Italy we consider it for sure as a lot of local sources are talking about this.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-me ... 2/5578747/
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... 2/5360485/

Are you kidding? It's a total bullsh*t from Nugnez, he wrote a lot about the "superfast" combustion, it never existed because Superfast it's a Ferrari's car name not a combustion. Many repost back his fantasies just to get attention from the numerous Ferrari's fans, but he never got a single real information.
He doesn't know the F1 regulamentations, he does not follow the F1 races, he just try to attract clicks.
It's insane think to rebuild a PU architecture just before an engine development freeze, it could possibly have been done maybe with this year PU, but they will not risk next seasons till 2025.
Anyway this it's a technichal forum not a place where to discuss about Nugnez visions or fans dreams and very soon this discussion will be deleted

Don't get too hot. It's only an engine. Think and say what you want as time will tell who's right.