Jambier wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 12:42For 2022 Alpine will bring:
- the split turbo engine, that was supposed to be ready for 2021
- but with the freeze they are also bringing the 23 engine
So basically a big engine update for 22, trying to put it all together like Honda did for 21 actually
Hopefully it will help Alpine a lot, then there is the chassis side where we still need to see some proof of good work
They will definitely go for it, in my opinion. They didn’t hire all those Mercedes engineers for nothing. Most likely they’ve been assessing for longer than we think. Matthew Harman has been there since 2018. It’s not unusual for them to be coy with the media while fully well knowing that’s what they’ll do next year.diffuser wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 15:27Jambier wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 12:42For 2022 Alpine will bring:
- the split turbo engine, that was supposed to be ready for 2021
- but with the freeze they are also bringing the 23 engine
So basically a big engine update for 22, trying to put it all together like Honda did for 21 actually
Hopefully it will help Alpine a lot, then there is the chassis side where we still need to see some proof of good work
From what I've read to date, that is true except for the front compressor. In March Taffin said the front compressor was a maybe. They are still evaluating it.
I'm not a fan of them being on the fence about that. I'd prefer they'd made a decision on it and spend time on improving the packaging. Hopefully that is a smoke screen and they have decided already.
I kind of hope so but worried about possible reliability issues.Ground Effect wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 17:29They will definitely go for it, in my opinion. They didn’t hire all those Mercedes engineers for nothing. Most likely they’ve been assessing for longer than we think. Matthew Harman has been there since 2018. It’s not unusual for them to be coy with the media while fully well knowing that’s what they’ll do next year.diffuser wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 15:27Jambier wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 12:42For 2022 Alpine will bring:
- the split turbo engine, that was supposed to be ready for 2021
- but with the freeze they are also bringing the 23 engine
So basically a big engine update for 22, trying to put it all together like Honda did for 21 actually
Hopefully it will help Alpine a lot, then there is the chassis side where we still need to see some proof of good work
From what I've read to date, that is true except for the front compressor. In March Taffin said the front compressor was a maybe. They are still evaluating it.
I'm not a fan of them being on the fence about that. I'd prefer they'd made a decision on it and spend time on improving the packaging. Hopefully that is a smoke screen and they have decided already.
What is important is performance, for a work team such as Alpine.diffuser wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 17:51I kind of hope so but worried about possible reliability issues.Ground Effect wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 17:29They will definitely go for it, in my opinion. They didn’t hire all those Mercedes engineers for nothing. Most likely they’ve been assessing for longer than we think. Matthew Harman has been there since 2018. It’s not unusual for them to be coy with the media while fully well knowing that’s what they’ll do next year.diffuser wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 15:27
From what I've read to date, that is true except for the front compressor. In March Taffin said the front compressor was a maybe. They are still evaluating it.
I'm not a fan of them being on the fence about that. I'd prefer they'd made a decision on it and spend time on improving the packaging. Hopefully that is a smoke screen and they have decided already.
Maybe, I don't think there is a performance improvement in using a front compressor. If there isn't, then it all comes down to packaging. Alpine, from what I've seen, don't have tight packaging like RBR or Ferrari. Those PU look like they put the PU cover on then filled the space between the PU and cover with some kind of liquid filler that then solidifies. So much can be improved.Jambier wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 18:29What is important is performance, for a work team such as Alpine.diffuser wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 17:51I kind of hope so but worried about possible reliability issues.Ground Effect wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 17:29
They will definitely go for it, in my opinion. They didn’t hire all those Mercedes engineers for nothing. Most likely they’ve been assessing for longer than we think. Matthew Harman has been there since 2018. It’s not unusual for them to be coy with the media while fully well knowing that’s what they’ll do next year.
Being reliable to finish P5-P8 in every race is no interest at all.
They need to take risk, if there are reliability issue, they will put reliability upgrades
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-p ... o/6254536/The current conditions - and this I say it very clearly - especially economical conditions, of transfer of technology between one team and another, the ones that are defined by the federation - are actually not very favourable. So the price that other teams pay to access the technology of people like us that make the initial investment, it’s not a good business case, if you want my opinion. I said that already a lot of times. I don’t want to enter into numbers, but I can tell you that this is not a good deal. It’s only made so that smaller teams that don’t have the ability to produce an engine, and this is the large majority, can get into the game. But for us economically, it doesn’t change a lot.
That livery looks nice on them.Morteza wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 20:39Company cars for Alonso and Ocon
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzCRR3XXIAE ... ame=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzCK5I9XIAU ... name=large
They are still struggling to understand the car.. it would be unwise to switch focus completely without making sure you have a good understanding how to make a car go fast.selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 09:33It seems like they forgot 2021 and preparing 2022 with this year car.
