Mercedes W12

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Jun 2021, 22:43
No. Some issues back at the factory getting the token changes right? Waited so long to see where the tokens will be used. Hope its like one second faster laptime when the upgrades come. =P~
Indeed! I mean if they were going to race the car as it is right now, why bother calling it W12? W11B would have made more sense, right? :wink:
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Hasn't it been established that if they didn't make the changes on FP1 at Bahrain then it is locked in (meaning they cannot use those tokens anymore)? I am astounded by the lack of changes on the car though. Maybe Toto's comment that only minor updates are coming is true.

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Maybe the "it's obvious where we spent them" is actually that it's obvious they didn't spend them at all.
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SiLo wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 14:40
Maybe the "it's obvious where we spent them" is actually that it's obvious they didn't spend them at all.
I said that from the beginning.
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SiLo wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 14:40
Maybe the "it's obvious where we spent them" is actually that it's obvious they didn't spend them at all.
Why would they not spend tokens? Hubris? Concerns around meeting the cost cap?

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mkay wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 15:15
SiLo wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 14:40
Maybe the "it's obvious where we spent them" is actually that it's obvious they didn't spend them at all.
Why would they not spend tokens? Hubris? Concerns around meeting the cost cap?
Possibly spent on removing the DAS? we never know how DAS has been deeply integrated with front suspension.

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ferrarifire wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 15:58
mkay wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 15:15
SiLo wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 14:40
Maybe the "it's obvious where we spent them" is actually that it's obvious they didn't spend them at all.
Why would they not spend tokens? Hubris? Concerns around meeting the cost cap?
Possibly spent on removing the DAS? we never know how DAS has been deeply integrated with front suspension.
I remember it was also established that they would be allowed to do this token-free because it was a rule change that required them to remove it.

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Iirc they could just swap it out if not needed anyways.

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mkay wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 15:15
SiLo wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 14:40
Maybe the "it's obvious where we spent them" is actually that it's obvious they didn't spend them at all.
Why would they not spend tokens? Hubris? Concerns around meeting the cost cap?
There was no cost cap last year while building this year's car. Either they were sure of having an enough competitive car and simply didn't bother applying a major change tokens would have brought or maybe they thought they would look at things first and put it on the car later (if allowed).

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Maybe some parts of the car were designed with DAS available and were not redesigned for driving without?

It seems the old Merc problems of 2014-2015 are returning.

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NL_Fer wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 19:48
Maybe some parts of the car were designed with DAS available and were not redesigned for driving without?

It seems the old Merc problems of 2014-2015 are returning.
Why wouldn't it? It was known very early that DAS would be banned for next season
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Still captured from the broadcast, post-quali:

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That cover and the exit ports look so much more intricate from this angle :shock:

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Shrieker wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 07:48
That cover and the exit ports look so much more intricate from this angle :shock:

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I was contemplating putting a NSFW tag on that one. :mrgreen:

I really like how this photo showcases the extreme downwash design slope on the side pods.

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zibby43 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 07:15
Still captured from the broadcast, post-quali:

https://preview.redd.it/hkx4h9otzg371.j ... c53357f4d4
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