2021 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, June 25 - 27

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Re: 2021 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, June 25 - 27

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siskue2005 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:11
Juzh wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:08
dans79 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:03


I think you will find it was Latifi that hindered him not Hamilton. Also, he went into the pits and I'm pretty sure got brand new tires and didn't improve. Actually I just noticed he got his second fast lap deleted.
His second fast lap which was deleted was 0.003s faster than than his first one, so there's nothing in it. When push comes to shove red bull lost 1.5-2 tenths in S1, making previous hamilton's comments after first runs in fp3 look even more ridiculous.
Lewis was asking where is the 3 tenths he lost, and it was bono saying its in the straights.. they were talking about that particular first run in fp3...
If u have seen the broadcast they showed they were changing wing ankle on Lewis after that.. and hebwent faster in the straights

This is typically how racing works...and I have seen similar things in the past from mika, schumy, alonso, vettel and senna et al

It's only Lewis haters who are worked up about it
Got a streamable clip of the rear wing angle being changed?
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Re: 2021 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, June 25 - 27

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dans79 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:13
lh13 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:06
dans79 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:04
It's hilarious how upset some people get anytime Lewis says anything about the tires or asks about pace....
I am you'll have noticed that Hamilton fans get upset all the same, since they jump in to his defence everytime something like this happens.
If you're a parent you know that eventually you get tired of hearing your child cry or throw a temper tantrum for no reason. Thats whats going on here, A driver says or does something a fan doesn't like, and toys start getting thrown about!
If they wouldn’t be constantly using the press to get their will via the FIA I would be inclined to believe it earlier. This was just marketing talk for all ears to hear. Again.every PC they use this same rhetoric.

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siskue2005 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:14
dans79 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:13
lh13 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:06


I am you'll have noticed that Hamilton fans get upset all the same, since they jump in to his defence everytime something like this happens.
If you're a parent you know that eventually you get tired of hearing your child cry or throw a temper tantrum for no reason. Thats whats going on here, A driver says or does something a fan doesn't like, and toys start getting thrown about!
It's not just the fans, look at how Crofty reacts to a genuine question about it on air! That's the current culture in social media which he has turned into
Crofty wouldn't have a job if I had my way. I honestly think every time there is even more than a moments silence he thinks "I have to say something", so the babbling starts up.
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Sieper wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:01
Mercedes still fastest, and 2 tenths is a wide margin. Hamilton did hinder Max on his best lap Ofcourse, but still, that is not 2 tenths.
Didn't he get purple in that sector?

Edit: it was about Hamilton but it's a bit weird, isn't it ... did they already have any coming together on track this weekend?

And with traffic it's really hard to tell ... 2tenths can be lost quite easily because of a car in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Sieper wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:16
If they wouldn’t be constantly using the press to get their will via the FIA I would be inclined to believe it earlier.
You seem to be overlooking Marko and Horner constantly running to the press. Did you forget it was Redbull that protested DAS last year, or was all bent out of shape about party modes?

It seems Merc is returning the favor this year, and people are flipping out!
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Purple in sector 3 only. Did he get hindered by Latifi earlier in the lap? Was not televised and I don’t have f1 tv streams to follow the driver. Let’s hope (from my point of view) he ca still fight for pole. From where I am standing Merc is again 2 of the 3 fastest cars and Hamilton on pole.

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RZS10 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:18
Sieper wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:01
Mercedes still fastest, and 2 tenths is a wide margin. Hamilton did hinder Max on his best lap Ofcourse, but still, that is not 2 tenths.
Didn't he get purple in that sector?

And with traffic it's really hard to tell ... 2tenths can be lost quite easily because of a car in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Hamilton was on a push lap and verstappen let him trough the lap before, but then hamilton just after being let trough in S3 decided to stomp on brakes and basically decided to hinder verstappen's lap. He didn't complete a flying lap and then went into pits the lap after, but not before holding up verstappen in T6-T7.

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dans79 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:22
Sieper wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:16
If they wouldn’t be constantly using the press to get their will via the FIA I would be inclined to believe it earlier.
You seem to be overlooking Marko and Horner constantly running to the press. Did you forget it was Redbull that protested DAS last year, or was all bent out of shape about party modes?

It seems Merc is returning the favor this year, and people are flipping out!
Wasn’t it you who complained about passive aggressive from others towards you?

Flipping out
Little children
Toys out of the pram

Just a selection of terms used by you to speak to others. What for. I never said that to you.

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Sieper wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:27
Flipping out
Little children
Toys out of the pram

Just a selection of terms used by you to speak to others. What for. I never said that to you.
Please show me where i directed any of those terms at any specific individual!
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Sieper wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:25
Purple in sector 3 only. Did he get hindered by Latifi earlier in the lap? Was not televised and I don’t have f1 tv streams to follow the driver. Let’s hope (from my point of view) he ca still fight for pole. From where I am standing Merc is again 2 of the 3 fastest cars and Hamilton on pole.
Latifi let him trough mid straight, he wasn't not a problem, see post above.

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I just went back and watched Max's onboard (f1tv has the replay up), and he wasn't hindered by either Latifi or Lewis.

He passed Latifi on the strait (and might have even gotten a little help).

Lewis was well in front through turn 4, and in front and well off the racing line entering turn 5.
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It feels like everyone really needs to just take a breath and calm down. There’s a lot of aggression flying round and I can see this thread getting locked, which I’m sure no-one wants.

There are a couple of trolls really trying to stoke a fire in a lot of otherwise pretty rational posters and start big arguments. And it’s working.

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dans79 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:33
I just went back and watched Max's onboard (f1tv has the replay up), and he wasn't hindered by either Latifi or Lewis.

He passed Latifi on the strait (and might have even gotten a little help).

Lewis was well in front through turn 4, and in front and well off the racing line entering turn 5.
It was obvious hamilton did it deliberately. Having a car that close ahead in T6 and 7 is gonna compromise you just by being a distraction. The way hamilton did on the outside line even more so.

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dans79 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:30
Sieper wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:27
Flipping out
Little children
Toys out of the pram

Just a selection of terms used by you to speak to others. What for. I never said that to you.
Please show me where i directed any of those terms at any specific individual!
Broad stroking wording makes it okay? I don’t think so and neither do you from your previous posts where you asked people who never explicitly mentioned you to not be passive aggressive. In any case, I ask to refrain from that. Almost nobody here does that and it serves no purpose.

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Re: 2021 Styrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, June 25 - 27

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dans79 wrote:
26 Jun 2021, 13:33
I just went back and watched Max's onboard (f1tv has the replay up), and he wasn't hindered by either Latifi or Lewis.

He passed Latifi on the strait (and might have even gotten a little help).

Lewis was well in front through turn 4, and in front and well off the racing line entering turn 5.
Seems like VER doing a Michael Jordan “I took it personally”. He needs to motivate himself and is using any such incident even the non-existent/minor ones to basically anger himself and channel that into performance.
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