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Once again...please try to stay on topic...which is the actual hardware of the W12. What RBR does can be discussed on the RBR team thread. Off topic comments can be removed.

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On the "Sky F1 Show!" on youtube, at around the 25:44 mark on the live stream, Karun Chandhok mentions he was speaking to Andrew Shovlin during the week, and Andrew confirmed an update package for the W12 at Silverstone.. Current link to the video, but it may change:


(Sky channel here for later: https://www.youtube.com/c/SkySportsF1/videos)

Coverage of the interview to be released over the weekend
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nzjrs wrote:
28 Jun 2021, 19:10
I agree with both of you because the different messaging obvious has a different audience.

The TPs might fool David Croft and the average race thread argue-er with comments, but I'm sure the teams ignore statements to the press and have a better sense of when an update is brought or not, they have the photographers and data after all.

So who is the audience for the "we aren't developing this car" and why?
Quoting myself because seeing this article leaves me feeling vindicated and yet soulless. This is the game I guess, but still a little sad. https://www.racefans.net/2021/07/01/ham ... e-planned/

(updates are coming and were always coming and indication that they were not coming was..... :wtf: )

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/aust ... rum-detail
Mercedes appears to have introduced a new rear brake drum design with a looped section displaced from the main body of the drum in the upper half. This should help manage the tyre temperatures differently on the shoulder
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DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 23:01
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/aust ... rum-detail
Mercedes appears to have introduced a new rear brake drum design with a looped section displaced from the main body of the drum in the upper half. This should help manage the tyre temperatures differently on the shoulder
https://resmim.net
here are some more from that same article, not sure if they are new or not though. However its nice to just have some good closeup shots.
A look at the Mercedes W12 brake assembly prior to the drum being installed shows us how some of the ductwork is used to help cool the brakes and offer aerodynamic assistance.
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Wide angle side shot of the Mercedes W12 shows us how the cape section beneath the nose is shaped in order to help caress the airflow.
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A close up of Mercedes ‘wavey’ floor, which has a large flap mounted just behind.
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A close up of the area ahead of the rear tyre on the Mercedes W12, note the way the floor flicks up toward the trailing edge to help roll the edge ove
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With the front wing mounted on the floor we can see how much the footplate is turned up on the Mercedes W12.
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dans79 wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 23:20
DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 23:01
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/aust ... rum-detail
Mercedes appears to have introduced a new rear brake drum design with a looped section displaced from the main body of the drum in the upper half. This should help manage the tyre temperatures differently on the shoulder
https://resmim.net
here are some more from that same article, not sure if they are new or not though. However its nice to just have some good closeup shots.
A look at the Mercedes W12 brake assembly prior to the drum being installed shows us how some of the ductwork is used to help cool the brakes and offer aerodynamic assistance.
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... etai-1.jpg
Wide angle side shot of the Mercedes W12 shows us how the cape section beneath the nose is shaped in order to help caress the airflow.
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg
A close up of Mercedes ‘wavey’ floor, which has a large flap mounted just behind.
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg
A close up of the area ahead of the rear tyre on the Mercedes W12, note the way the floor flicks up toward the trailing edge to help roll the edge ove
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg
With the front wing mounted on the floor we can see how much the footplate is turned up on the Mercedes W12.
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg
This shows that the underfloor itself is not wobbled, just the end tips.

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Mercedes trialing 2 different RW setups this weekend.

Bottas with the double-pillar wing (Albert Fabrega):

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Hamilton with the single-pillar wing (Motorsport.com):

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Mercedes running an upgraded diffuser. They have sprayed it with purple flow viz
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Mercedes putting flow-viz on their car leading edge and rear diffuser.

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With the prototype tyres though, so this could be checking the effects the stronger sidewalls are having on airflow.
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SiLo wrote:
02 Jul 2021, 13:01
With the prototype tyres though, so this could be checking the effects the stronger sidewalls are having on airflow.
Also on red tyred runs. But yea, think it is about the effects of the new stiffer tyres
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SiLo wrote:
02 Jul 2021, 13:01
With the prototype tyres though, so this could be checking the effects the stronger sidewalls are having on airflow.
I missed practice, was it on both cars or only one?
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dans79 wrote:
02 Jul 2021, 13:10
SiLo wrote:
02 Jul 2021, 13:01
With the prototype tyres though, so this could be checking the effects the stronger sidewalls are having on airflow.
I missed practice, was it on both cars or only one?
Lewis has been out with flow-viz on the leading edge, Valtteri is running flow-viz on the rear diffuser.

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pursue_one's wrote:
02 Jul 2021, 13:12
dans79 wrote:
02 Jul 2021, 13:10
SiLo wrote:
02 Jul 2021, 13:01
With the prototype tyres though, so this could be checking the effects the stronger sidewalls are having on airflow.
I missed practice, was it on both cars or only one?
Lewis has been out with flow-viz on the leading edge, Valtteri is running flow-viz on the rear diffuser.
Thank you!
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They calibrating the tunnel to a finer level? They won extra tunnel tume remember. Hope it means something good for GB.
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