Well said.101FlyingDutchman wrote: ↑03 Jul 2021, 21:39
The downforce they do produce clearly does get generated very efficiently but they cannot match the Merc or the RB which is why the race pace on heavier fuel loads suffers so badly. On the front limited corners they easily lose a tenth or two in one corner alone
Yup, I feel the same.
100%. And already some time. Look, there have been so many signs.
Yes, I think so. And Hamilton then also knows this so that is a credit to him Taking up the gauntlet. Russell is very very good Imho. Hamilton is excellent, maybe Russell is too, but that we don’t really know yet.
Very exciting! I feel for Bottas, but he’s had every opportunity and had a heck of a good career for himself at Merc.
Haha wow I had missed that. Thanks for sharing!Sieper wrote: ↑03 Jul 2021, 22:45100%. And already some time. Look, there have been so many signs.
I saw Toto on sky saying he asked Valterri if he was OK with them announcing Lewis for two years this weekend already. Toto then said that Valterri said “don’t &&&€# care”. So if Toto feels the need to reveal that… Just another of those signs that make me agree with your feeling entirely.
I think Merc explained that in their last race debrief. The wing setting that they are running now is the optimal wing setting. What is going on now is that Redbull has a car that has more basic downforce than the Merc, so it can afford to run less wing and be competitive in the corners. If Merc runs a lower downforce wing they will pick up some speed in the straights, but not enough to compensate for what they will lose in cornering speed. Hopefully we can finally put that idea to bed.mkay wrote: ↑03 Jul 2021, 16:46McLaren isn't even that 'high' rake. It's just a very slippery car which obviously works well here. I'm flabbergasted Merc didn't even try running a lower downforce wing this weekend, given the softer tyres. They lost so much time in S1 to Norris (with tow or without).zibby43 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2021, 16:33Under normal circumstances, the maximum tomorrow is 3rd and 4th.
Both titles are done now. The car is a dog. The floor changes killed it. There’s no disputing it and no amount of gaslighting can change it.
Merc was beaten resoundingly by a customer team (high rake).
Glad to see you're finally seeing what I've been seeing for a while now.
Seems that those rumours are pretty true as Paul di Resta said on Sky in Q1 that he asked Toto about the flow-viz had they wanna see some flow separation due to the higher rake they tested ... he further said that Toto was just smiling at him after the question and not replied ...atanatizante wrote: ↑03 Jul 2021, 14:59I read on another forum that aero upgrades will be the bare minimum. The upgrades will gonna be mostly mechanically in order to have more setup car balance options just to give them a wider tyre operation window aka sweet spot.zibby43 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2021, 21:27
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Yeah, if he’s saying the sim setup didn’t work in FP1, then that’s a correlation issue. And it helps explain why Merc have been nowhere so many times to start the weekend, and why they go backwards sometimes between FP2 and FP3.
If they get that sorted, that could be a huge boon for them on top of the next race’s upgrade.
Furthermore, it says that that flow-viz running is for testing the aero changes due to higher the rake of the car ... in fact, they are trying this coz they don`t need to have those kinda rake level RB is running in order to achieve the same volume, due to having a longer wheelbase hence maybe the aero disturbance could be manageable ...
Completely embarrassing form. They just have no answer to anything. Practically no development. The tokens quote about being clearly evident was probably a joke too.
Yup. And probably a comfortable RBR 1-2 were it not for the Perez Norris incident.
Very true. The lack of upgrades are not only seeing RBR zoom off into the distance but other teams starting to catch and get ahead.Hammerfist wrote: ↑04 Jul 2021, 17:38Yeah this thing is over, unless they'll surprise with the upcoming update, but it's clear to see that the others are catching Merc. Redbull extending their gap and Mclaren closing the gap even in race pace as well. I just foresee a long summer. Silverstone might not be pretty.
