Very high track temps today
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Esteban Ocon secured a surprise win at the Hungarian Grand Prix after the usual contenders eliminated one another in the first corner at the start. Sebastian Vettel finished second, Lewis Hamilton salvaged with third after ending up at the back early on.
Very high track temps today
It's good practice, only slight rain in the forecast for tomorrow, slightly cooler temps, but not in any significant way. Timing your run will be critical, those clouds will give you the lap time you need. Unless it starts raining, then not.
I think they have enough downforce now that 3 is less of a worry after the exit from 2.godlameroso wrote: ↑30 Jul 2021, 16:58One other thing, would a tighter exit on 2 help carry more speed through 3, or is using all the road on the exit of 2 faster? I've never been able to make the standard line work for me.
Where are you getting your information from?godlameroso wrote: ↑30 Jul 2021, 16:52Sunday, a bit warmer than today, managing the tires will be crucial to pull off a one stop, which seems likely the optimum strategy. The interesting bit is seeing who can start on mediums, that's a nice advantage to start on, but not absolutely necessary.
Could be power mode, could be drag/downforce relationship. Maybe RedBull are carrying more downforce and thus drag, hence coming off the last corner faster but slower by the end of the straight. With the same power but slightly higher downforce/drag you'd get exactly the same situation. Also fuel loads - if Merc was carrying more weight, they'd be slower in the corners but weight doesn't affect top speed (only how long it takes to get to it). So many variables that one can't, at this stage, say "it's the power mode being used".Ryar wrote: ↑30 Jul 2021, 16:57Mercedes using more power than Red Bull, both FPs. On their fastest laps, in both practice using Softs, Bottas did 314kph at the end of straight and Max was 304kph. Max rounds off the last turn before starting his flying lap, 10kph faster than Bottas and ends straight with 10kph down. In the comparison video from FP1, Bottas was stretching ahead on all the straights and Max was pulling it back through corners.
You do understand the level of drag required for 10kph difference right? Besides, Mercedes is running their usual barn door here, compared to Red Bull's relatively trimmed version. The 10kph difference was observable in long runs too. While Lewis was clocking 296kph on straights, Max was doing 286kph as observed on their respective laps when there was no toe effect.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2021, 17:13Could be power mode, could be drag/downforce relationship. Maybe RedBull are carrying more downforce and thus drag, hence coming off the last corner faster but slower by the end of the straight. With the same power but slightly higher downforce/drag you'd get exactly the same situation. Also fuel loads - if Merc was carrying more weight, they'd be slower in the corners but weight doesn't affect top speed (only how long it takes to get to it). So many variables that one can't, at this stage, say "it's the power mode being used".Ryar wrote: ↑30 Jul 2021, 16:57Mercedes using more power than Red Bull, both FPs. On their fastest laps, in both practice using Softs, Bottas did 314kph at the end of straight and Max was 304kph. Max rounds off the last turn before starting his flying lap, 10kph faster than Bottas and ends straight with 10kph down. In the comparison video from FP1, Bottas was stretching ahead on all the straights and Max was pulling it back through corners.
I guess we'll find out tomorrow and Sunday.
It'll be interesting to see whether the relatively lower tyre pressures this weekend help Merc to look after the tyres whilst carrying slightly less downforce. That would make them untouchable on the straight / easier for them to overtake on the straight. It's all part of the balancing of variables that makes F1 interesting.
That in itself is odd to me. Given the track temps, I expected redbull to be well clear of Mercedes who historically hasn't liked high track temperatures, and thus has a boat load of problems setting up the car.
That's a cool website, don't like the name, but it's a pretty neat, thanks.dans79 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2021, 17:09Where are you getting your information from?godlameroso wrote: ↑30 Jul 2021, 16:52Sunday, a bit warmer than today, managing the tires will be crucial to pull off a one stop, which seems likely the optimum strategy. The interesting bit is seeing who can start on mediums, that's a nice advantage to start on, but not absolutely necessary.
Wu shows the temps on Sunday being the same as today.
https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/h ... 6r/ICSMR11
That literally tells you less than nothing. So many uncounted laps, short stints where a driver doesn't care about depleting the SoC.zibby43 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2021, 17:17The only year I can think of the RB being particularly handy in Hungary was 2019.
I said at the beginning of the thread that I didn’t see Ferrari troubling the top 2 and that this circuit is no longer like Monaco.
Anyway, race pace:
https://twitter.com/tonisokolov1011/sta ... 29666?s=21
