2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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renault rs26 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:01
Shrieker wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 17:51
hollus wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 17:02
This was the situation as Norris decided to launch his last Q lap.

https://i.imgur.com/QSXWzJw.jpg
Oh please... Don't ruin people's day with facts and logic :wink:
People are angry because of his driving since pit exit not last few corners.
Man, it's so hard to kill a good narrative!
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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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hollus wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:15
renault rs26 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:01
Shrieker wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 17:51


Oh please... Don't ruin people's day with facts and logic :wink:
People are angry because of his driving since pit exit not last few corners.
Man, it's so hard to kill a good narrative!
https://i.imgur.com/Z4FsaeE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lAViVEI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lxgxI02.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0RqRhTN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QSXWzJw.jpg
Ah case closed , Horner also admitted verstappens first run was comprimised by being to close to Leclerd so why not send him out after Vettel or before to do a run on an empty track just because of track evolution ?

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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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nimoraca wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:04
I personally had no problem with Hamilton pacing himself on the out lap and creating some distance from Bot. He did however decide to finish that last lap even though he clearly gave up on it (he was 2 seconds down) probably wanting to still give Verstappen some dirty air at that last corner. He could have just pitted. Again nothing against the rules but he was definitely playing some mind games.
Whilst they do sometimes abort and dive into the pits, it’s probably smarter to take an extra lap to cool down, given parc ferme conditions apply and there’s only so much the mechanics can touch.
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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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hollus wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:15
renault rs26 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:01
Shrieker wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 17:51


Oh please... Don't ruin people's day with facts and logic :wink:
People are angry because of his driving since pit exit not last few corners.
Man, it's so hard to kill a good narrative!
https://i.imgur.com/Z4FsaeE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lAViVEI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lxgxI02.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0RqRhTN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QSXWzJw.jpg
Can I steal those?

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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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Anyone moaning about the minimum lap times needs to actually go a read the race directors notes on it. It only applied to recon and in laps.
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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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hollus wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:15
renault rs26 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:01
Shrieker wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 17:51


Oh please... Don't ruin people's day with facts and logic :wink:
People are angry because of his driving since pit exit not last few corners.
Man, it's so hard to kill a good narrative!
https://i.imgur.com/Z4FsaeE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lAViVEI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lxgxI02.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0RqRhTN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QSXWzJw.jpg
Looks more like someone was more busy with the guy right in front of him then preparing for a lap.

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Magicsenna_41 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:51
OMG. I propose Netflix should bring some F1 rules awareness. What's allowed and not. This bring bring the new 'Fans' maybe to same understanding.
Agreed! Like the driver dev programme Codemasters F1 game used to have few years ago before you being the career mode.

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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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Max has offically ended the case :D


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Jolle wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 16:31
That’s the risk of going out at the very last moment. Ocon was only a couple of seconds in front of Bottas.
With both Mercedes having solid laps on the board, Red Bull was just pushing their luck waiting so long. One off track excursion by anyone would bring a yellow flag or RED! Call it a s'tragedy' error. :)

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Jolle wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:41
Looks more like someone was more busy with the guy right in front of him then preparing for a lap.
To play the devil's advocate a little bit, maybe he thought Lewis was going too slow and wanted to pass him, but the former wasn't letting him thru.

OTOH tho, looking at Bottas, it wasn't as if Lewis had a lot of gap to play with, if at all.
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Unf wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:50
Max has offically ended the case :D

Max +1
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nimoraca wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 18:04
I personally had no problem with Hamilton pacing himself on the out lap and creating some distance from Bot. He did however decide to finish that last lap even though he clearly gave up on it (he was 2 seconds down) probably wanting to still give Verstappen some dirty air at that last corner. He could have just pitted. Again nothing against the rules but he was definitely playing some mind games.
He was definitely trying to impeed anyway he could. Very very dirty by him.
But I expected nothing less from a person that celebrates after sending someone to the wall.

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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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Could RedBull use Perez to do some "Gamesmanship" during the race? Fighting for position on old tires on a track that's rough to pass on.

Slippery slope.

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Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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Watching outlap on boards of bottas, hamilton and max, it doesnt really seem lewis held up max on purpose. Bottas started the lap with a gap of 7 secs to ocon, lewis started the lap with a gap of about 7 seconds to bottas ( per engineers). The TV feed made it seem like he was holding max up but it was a product of cars ahead of him. At most, he held up max by 2 secs at the final corner, but I even doubt that was on purpose. Lewis is not a dirty driver

Before anyone accuses me being a lewis fanboi I am far from it. I think he was at fault at Silverstone and deserved a bigger penalty. Today's incident was on Red Bull miscalculating when to send drivers out perhaps. Just unfortunate, but we have a great lap 1 on our hands tomorrow
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RaceFan1 wrote:
31 Jul 2021, 19:16
Could RedBull use Perez to do some "Gamesmanship" during the race? Fighting for position on old tires on a track that's rough to pass on.

Slippery slope.
He could time his pit stops to cost Hamilton, but it is a precise calculation that can go wrong and lose points himself
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