Exactly..
It’s a problem in Q1 and a bit in Q2. In Q3 the track normally is quite empty. Looking at the GPS map, nothing prevented them to go out 30 seconds earlier. But, somehow it looked like they waited for the Mercs to come out.ispano6 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 22:24The problem with going out early is you get impeded by people on their out lap if you catch them. Maybe it's smart to do that and allow themselves to be and cause the offender a grid penalty? Except that the slower cars are out on track first so you're bound to be impeded but not by your main rival. Hungary is a prime track for driving unnecessarily slow or impeding. It's also one that can bring out a red flag. Tomorrow should be interesting. Max will need to be careful not to get collected given he has the grip advantage and slipstream. Hamilton may go in too hot, go wide, or lock up.
Agreed. Any time Hamilton or Max is disadvantaged in some way the rules need to be rewritten to "fix" F1. People just need to get over it.214270 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 22:16Precisely; there is no problem requiring a fix.Jolle wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 22:10Or, just an idea, the session is 12-15 minutes long, don’t go out with just 2 minutes to go as the last car.nimoraca wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 22:07F1 can avoid this ----fest that happens every other race by, for example, allowing a driver in Q3 to finish a lap as long as he exists the pit on time and his out lap is within certain limits (for exmaple 150% of his best time). This would obviously not help in Monza but might help in other places.
So much back-n-forth on threads over such trivial matters.
It almost seemed like Max had a look and, when he saw that it's an endless queue of cars ahead, decided against a possible overtake.Jolle wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 22:06Blocking in the pit lane? Like, stop an overtake there when your team sends you out to late?sosic2121 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 22:01You haven't seen blocking max in pit lane?Jolle wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 21:56
I watched the outlaps from Bottas, Verstappen and Hamilton, on the onboard. Verstappen was send out by his team after Hamilton drove past their box, like it was planned to. All the way to the line he was right up Hamilton’s gearbox, almost busy trying to keep something of a steady line because he was that close.
Hamilton was constantly told the delta to Bottas, from 2 to 4 seconds until they came to the last corner, letting it go to 7. He was driving smoothly, because he has a few seconds of clear space and didn’t have to react to Bottas.
Bottas was driving smooth and told the distance to Ocon, Same as Hamilton. 2 - 4 seconds until the last corner, letting it open to 7.
What was dirty about the outlap? I applaud that Verstappen didn’t try to fix his team mistake by overtaking Hamilton, who didn’t do anything wrong or dirty.
I saw Verstappen taking a look, luckily for him he didn’t leave the lane to overtake, would have cost him dearly.
Horner literally said he had no issue with it:Magicsenna_41 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 23:37Perez said that Lewis had a sensible and normal gap to Bottas.
I think the media and Red Bull management again trying to make something up. Instead they should admit that they failed.
Last year i was convinced Vettel should have quit but now he is solid again not making mistakes in a car he is new too. Gasly enjoying this team.ringo wrote: ↑01 Aug 2021, 00:11Lets talk about race. Some people still mourning silverstone apparently.
Good job by Lewis there today. He really pulled a gap ob Bottas. Valteri was looking very strong in practice. I think both drivers will be dialled in for Sunday. I hope Bottas has good race pace and can pressure Lewis.
Redbull left me scratching my head. I think Max is just not having a good time out there. The car has more pace in it but the balance is off. Must be the temepatures. From they had to use the soft compound to secure q3 i realized they were not confident in the car's balance.
Mclaren not too bad but below my expectations. Especially with Daniel. I though the car and engine would have been a fit with this track. Aston seemed to have used their strong points better here and Vettel did a superb job. Im changing my mind about his demise now. He is actually showing some flashes of briliance.
George was a non factor. queit weekend from Williams. Maybe the tyre temps hurt them.
Good job by Gasly again and Ocon and Alonso. That Alpine is a mysterious car.
I think with these high temperatures in the race Red Bull has a good chance with a 2 stop strategy.ringo wrote: ↑01 Aug 2021, 00:11Lets talk about race. Some people still mourning silverstone apparently.
Good job by Lewis there today. He really pulled a gap ob Bottas. Valteri was looking very strong in practice. I think both drivers will be dialled in for Sunday. I hope Bottas has good race pace and can pressure Lewis.
Redbull left me scratching my head. I think Max is just not having a good time out there. The car has more pace in it but the balance is off. Must be the temepatures. From they had to use the soft compound to secure q3 i realized they were not confident in the car's balance.
Mclaren not too bad but below my expectations. Especially with Daniel. I though the car and engine would have been a fit with this track. Aston seemed to have used their strong points better here and Vettel did a superb job. Im changing my mind about his demise now. He is actually showing some flashes of briliance.
George was a non factor. queit weekend from Williams. Maybe the tyre temps hurt them.
Good job by Gasly again and Ocon and Alonso. That Alpine is a mysterious car.
That strategy has two significant caveats though. The car behind has to have substantially better pace and tire deg.Magicsenna_41 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2021, 01:51And if we look at races like Barcelona, Paul Ricard or Hungaroring 2019 a 2 stop looked really promising.