2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

[wesley123]

Let's look at the record from 2014 onwards.

Did I miss anything?

Yeah, why start at 2014? How about 2007 when a rookie annoyed Alonso so much he got himself a grid demotion and the rookie went on to win the race...

That 2007 was the same year that the rookie took 6 poles and Alonso only 2, wasn't it? THe year the rookie got the same number of points as Alonso and finished higher in the title standings thanks to being favored by his own team
Or 2008 when Alonso was languishing in a relatively poor car having got himself ejected from the team du jour. Could have had a third title that year.

I have to admit to having a cheeky thought that what was really going through Alonso's head wasn't "I've got to help Ocon" but rather "this is for 2007, you bastard!"

I fixed it for you. No need to thank me, I know you will appreciate it

The FIA-official(s) who was present in the garage at all times, and I believe in the factory as well, would tell you otherwise

[SiLo]

How are you guys still arguing over most of this stuff hahahahaha

[Ryar]

Yeah, why start at 2014? How about 2007 when a rookie annoyed Alonso so much he got himself a grid demotion and the rookie went on to win the race...

That 2007 was the same year that the rookie took 6 poles and Alonso only 2, wasn't it? THe year the rookie got the same number of points as Alonso and finished higher in the title standings thanks to being favored by his own team
Or 2008 when Alonso was languishing in a relatively poor car having got himself ejected from the team du jour. Could have had a third title that year.

I have to admit to having a cheeky thought that what was really going through Alonso's head wasn't "I've got to help Ocon" but rather "this is for 2007, you bastard!"

I fixed it for you. No need to thank me, I know you will appreciate it

The FIA-official(s) who was present in the garage at all times, and I believe in the factory as well, would tell you otherwise

Official from the same organization who couldn't prove what wrong Ferrari did with their PU? That's legit. Yep, I trust him to have taken care of matters.

[Just_a_fan]

I fixed it for you. No need to thank me, I know you will appreciate it

The FIA-official(s) who was present in the garage at all times, and I believe in the factory as well, would tell you otherwise

Official from the same organization who couldn't prove what wrong Ferrari did with their PU? That's legit. Yep, I trust him to have taken care of matters.

The same organisation that says Red Bull's wings have been legal over the years? Yeah, you might have a point.

[Just_a_fan]

How are you guys still arguing over most of this stuff hahahahaha

It's summer break!

(but sadly not in the good "girls, beach and beer" way of the Hollywood movies... )

[dans79]

How are you guys still arguing over most of this stuff hahahahaha

It's summer break!

(but sadly not in the good "girls, beach and beer" way of the Hollywood movies... )

Hey, some of us are actually at the beach!

[Just_a_fan]

How are you guys still arguing over most of this stuff hahahahaha

It's summer break!

(but sadly not in the good "girls, beach and beer" way of the Hollywood movies... )

Hey, some of us are actually at the beach!

Pah, and there was me thinking I liked you...

[dans79]

It's summer break!

(but sadly not in the good "girls, beach and beer" way of the Hollywood movies... )

Hey, some of us are actually at the beach!

Pah, and there was me thinking I liked you...

[SiLo]

It's summer break!

(but sadly not in the good "girls, beach and beer" way of the Hollywood movies... )

Hey, some of us are actually at the beach!

Pah, and there was me thinking I liked you...

He didn't say WHICH beach. Could be a very cold brisk one.

[Big Tea]

Hey, some of us are actually at the beach!

Pah, and there was me thinking I liked you...

He didn't say WHICH beach. Could be a very cold brisk one.

I live almost on the beach, and its like December here today. high winds, cold and showers. Stay in town you better off today

[Ryar]

The FIA-official(s) who was present in the garage at all times, and I believe in the factory as well, would tell you otherwise

Official from the same organization who couldn't prove what wrong Ferrari did with their PU? That's legit. Yep, I trust him to have taken care of matters.

The same organisation that says Red Bull's wings have been legal over the years? Yeah, you might have a point.

Yep. Same one, who couldn't figure out Mercedes' oil burning either.

[dans79]

Hey, some of us are actually at the beach!

Pah, and there was me thinking I liked you...

He didn't say WHICH beach. Could be a very cold brisk one.

We've been staying on Hilton Head island, but we are in Savannah for lunch today. I can assure you it's very hot and humid here.

[sosic2121]

Official from the same organization who couldn't prove what wrong Ferrari did with their PU? That's legit. Yep, I trust him to have taken care of matters.

The same organisation that says Red Bull's wings have been legal over the years? Yeah, you might have a point.

Yep. Same one, who couldn't figure out Mercedes' oil burning either.

To be fair, they were probably trying not to figure out...

[ringo]

So latifi can finish the season ahead of Russel.
Can we say he beat him and did the better job?

His race pace isnt so bad.

[langedweil]

The problem is not that the claims that are being made are false or unverifiable or whatever, it is that they are completely irrelevant for the discussion at hand, and in particular, for the Hungary race thread. Yes, Max is an aggressive driver, and one can question whether he learns enough from his mistake. That does not he is at fault for every (racing) incident he is involved in (nor does Hamilton being a generally rather clean and civil driver mean that he is infallible in every incident he is involved in). And let's remember, the incident that this ongoing discussion is mostly related to did not even happen in Hungary. So yeah, no surprise a moderator steps in here.

Small addition; Ham is considered being a clean driver because he didn't have to put up a fight in at least 60/100 racewins, and cruise from pole to an easily 20/30s lead.

When it comes down to racing he's about as clean/aggressive as many others .. and fairly so ..