2021 Mclaren F1 Team

[diffuser]

Much will depend on the weather, now the forecast promises rains, which may change the alignment. The last rain race turned into a nightmare for us.

Surely mclaren are due a huge slice of luck at the next wet race

It's like flipping a coin. if you flip a coin 99 times and it came up heads every time. The odds of the next flip being heads is still 50%. The coin has no knowledge of the previous 99 flips.... I understand the law of averages but it still doesn't change that we have 2 possible outcomes.

[Emag]

Still, the odds you get 99 heads in a row are extremely low to begin with.

Yes, it can happen. But most likely, you will get at least one tail in those 99 flips.

[Manoah2u]

Still, the odds you get 99 heads in a row are extremely low to begin with.

Yes, it can happen. But most likely, you will get at least one tail in those 99 flips.

and yet, the odds are still and always will be 50/50. every single toss.
unless you're two-face and have a special coin and make your own luck.

[blastdoman]

Every time it says here it's a pro McLaren circuit, the weekend turns into a hell. An example was Mugello last year.

[billamend]

Every time it says here it's a pro McLaren circuit, the weekend turns into a hell. An example was Mugello last year.

Or Baku this year - not hell but under-delivered.

[CjC]

Yeah, to be honest Mclaren wasn’t that strong at Spa last season
I’m mainly interested to see where that new bargeboard package takes them to which was introduced at the Hungaroring

[runningmanz]

Great look back at the last 10 years with Ricciardo in F1. So many awesome moments. Hopefully many more to come with McLaren!

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... AEH6s.html

For me till date and beyond his 2014 season will always be remembered because of not just for beating up his 4 time drivers championship teammate but he was the first and the only driver on the grid that season to beat the two Mercedes drivers in Hybrid era, and i don't think he lost his driving style and i know he would be back at top very soon. Also many underestimated Lando to be tough competitor to him but they are evenly matched and will be good driver lineup like Ferrari currently have.

Yeah no doubt, Dan will get a handle on the McLaren soon, he is too good not to proven over many years in many different cars.

[runningmanz]

Ricciardo pumped for this weekend at Spa and his 200th F1 race. He has been back in the simulator as well this week.

https://f1i.com/news/415351-ricciardo-g ... th-gp.html

[the EDGE]

In a round-about sort of way Daniels struggles at McLaren have actually been a good thing for team

Lando of course is getting more out of the package, but the truth is the package is simply not good enough to challenge for the top

Daniel has highlighted a huge weakness McLaren were evidently not aware of, when even compared to other midfield teams, and had made them review their approach to design

If they can solve this mid-corner issue, then I’m sure that could be the last piece, or at least a very large piece of the puzzle in place to challenge for wins. Hopefully It’s come just in time for consideration when designing the Mcl36

[Emag]

Spa was good back in 2019 (race pace) but yeah, it wasn't exactly amazing last year.

Not sure what to expect, but I am excited nonetheless. It's the first race in 3 weeks.

[mclaren111]

In a round-about sort of way Daniels struggles at McLaren have actually been a good thing for team

Lando of course is getting more out of the package, but the truth is the package is simply not good enough to challenge for the top

Daniel has highlighted a huge weakness McLaren were evidently not aware of, when even compared to other midfield teams, and had made them review their approach to design

If they can solve this mid-corner issue, then I’m sure that could be the last piece, or at least a very large piece of the puzzle in place to challenge for wins. Hopefully It’s come just in time for consideration when designing the Mcl36

Spot On...

[mclaren111]

In a round-about sort of way Daniels struggles at McLaren have actually been a good thing for team

Lando of course is getting more out of the package, but the truth is the package is simply not good enough to challenge for the top

Daniel has highlighted a huge weakness McLaren were evidently not aware of, when even compared to other midfield teams, and had made them review their approach to design

If they can solve this mid-corner issue, then I’m sure that could be the last piece, or at least a very large piece of the puzzle in place to challenge for wins. Hopefully It’s come just in time for consideration when designing the Mcl36

Spot On...

[SmallSoldier]

In a round-about sort of way Daniels struggles at McLaren have actually been a good thing for team

Lando of course is getting more out of the package, but the truth is the package is simply not good enough to challenge for the top

Daniel has highlighted a huge weakness McLaren were evidently not aware of, when even compared to other midfield teams, and had made them review their approach to design

If they can solve this mid-corner issue, then I’m sure that could be the last piece, or at least a very large piece of the puzzle in place to challenge for wins. Hopefully It’s come just in time for consideration when designing the Mcl36

I don’t think that Daniel’s struggles are what made the team realized their weakness, they knew it was there from season’s past, with slow speed corners and front limited tracks hurting the team for the past several seasons… The feedback from Carlos and Lando should have pointed this out too, with Carlos admitting that it was “weird” how you needed to drive to extract the most of the car.

The weakness was a compromised by the team in order to gain aerodynamic efficiency, it was a conscious decision to go for a design that gave them a boost in other areas (straight line speed and fast corner stability) and one that I would argue has paid large dividends for the team… If we consider the disparity on resources between McLaren and the top 2 (+ Ferrari), the fact that they have been able to halve the gap to the front guys with not only the token system in place, but with less than half the budget of those ahead of them and in a challenging environment with Covid is remarkable.

[mwillems]

In a round-about sort of way Daniels struggles at McLaren have actually been a good thing for team

Lando of course is getting more out of the package, but the truth is the package is simply not good enough to challenge for the top

Daniel has highlighted a huge weakness McLaren were evidently not aware of, when even compared to other midfield teams, and had made them review their approach to design

If they can solve this mid-corner issue, then I’m sure that could be the last piece, or at least a very large piece of the puzzle in place to challenge for wins. Hopefully It’s come just in time for consideration when designing the Mcl36

I don’t think that Daniel’s struggles are what made the team realized their weakness, they knew it was there from season’s past, with slow speed corners and front limited tracks hurting the team for the past several seasons… The feedback from Carlos and Lando should have pointed this out too, with Carlos admitting that it was “weird” how you needed to drive to extract the most of the car.

The weakness was a compromised by the team in order to gain aerodynamic efficiency, it was a conscious decision to go for a design that gave them a boost in other areas (straight line speed and fast corner stability) and one that I would argue has paid large dividends for the team… If we consider the disparity on resources between McLaren and the top 2 (+ Ferrari), the fact that they have been able to halve the gap to the front guys with not only the token system in place, but with less than half the budget of those ahead of them and in a challenging environment with Covid is remarkable.

Agreed. I suspect that there is an element of protection from Seidl for Daniel and an element of truth in that they are not sure why.

But by their own admission, they have stated it is not a flaw is the car is fast and as a result of whatever causes it, is very aerodynamically efficient. So one one hand the team states they are happy with Daniel and on the other they state they are happy with the car, so it is not hard to see that there is an overlap between those two that is kept behind closed doors.


In any case, I don't think Daniel will get to grips with this car, but that doesn't mean he won't have some good races.
I only hope that this aerodynamic "foible" doesn't carry to next year. And if it doesn't, I hope Lando doesn't have the same issue next year than Danny has this year!

[the EDGE]

I don’t think that Daniel’s struggles are what made the team realized their weakness, they knew it was there from season’s past, with slow speed corners and front limited tracks hurting the team for the past several seasons… The feedback from Carlos and Lando should have pointed this out too, with Carlos admitting that it was “weird” how you needed to drive to extract the most of the car.

The weakness was a compromised by the team in order to gain aerodynamic efficiency, it was a conscious decision to go for a design that gave them a boost in other areas (straight line speed and fast corner stability) and one that I would argue has paid large dividends for the team… If we consider the disparity on resources between McLaren and the top 2 (+ Ferrari), the fact that they have been able to halve the gap to the front guys with not only the token system in place, but with less than half the budget of those ahead of them and in a challenging environment with Covid is remarkable.

Yes I imagine they were aware of their slow corner weakness, but were they aware of the extent of the issue and was it a priority to correct?

I expect this dates back to direction they chose after issues with the draggy Mcl33

Like the Renault PU highlighted that, I suspect Daniel has highlighted they went too far in the opposite direction

They must find a balance if they want to become title contenders, or at least with the current breed of cars anyway