2025 Las Vegas Grand Prix - Las Vegas Strip, Nov 21 - 23

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f1isgood wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 10:28
It should be a slamdunk disqualification if they are to follow what has been done these regulations. If they don't do disqualification, I will have interesting things to say.....
I'm curious, did you write the same thing after Verstappen rammed Russell in Barcelona? He should have been given a 10-second stop-and-go and four penalty points, but in the end he only got 10 seconds and three penalty points, which allowed him to compete in Canada and score points in Spain.

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Apparently, Macca is arguing force majeure due to a bumpy track according to @LucianoYoma —essentially, that external factors beyond their control caused the wear, rather than a deliberate rules violation.

They're claiming the Vegas track's unique conditions (bumps, curbs, and possibly debris or incidents during the race) led to unavoidable excessive wear.

Sky Sports F1's Ted Kravitz reported: "When the rear-most skid block is less than 9mm, there's very little McLaren can do to try and claim force majeure or that something was happening. They are trying that, as we understand."

Macca defense aims to show the breach wasn't due to an illegal setup but unforeseen circumstances.
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_cerber1 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:23
f1isgood wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 10:28
It should be a slamdunk disqualification if they are to follow what has been done these regulations. If they don't do disqualification, I will have interesting things to say.....
I'm curious, did you write the same thing after Verstappen rammed Russell in Barcelona? He should have been given a 10-second stop-and-go and four penalty points, but in the end he only got 10 seconds and three penalty points, which allowed him to compete in Canada and score points in Spain.
Good bait, but technical infringements are straightforward.
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Chuckjr wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:24
Apparently, Macca is arguing force majeure due to a bumpy track according to @LucianoYoma —essentially, that external factors beyond their control caused the wear, rather than a deliberate rules violation.

They're claiming the Vegas track's unique conditions (bumps, curbs, and possibly debris or incidents during the race) led to unavoidable excessive wear.

Sky Sports F1's Ted Kravitz reported: "When the rear-most skid block is less than 9mm, there's very little McLaren can do to try and claim force majeure or that something was happening. They are trying that, as we understand."

Macca defense aims to show the breach wasn't due to an illegal setup but unforeseen circumstances.

Did the bumps and curbs jump out of the way for the non-Mclaren cars? :lol:
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f1isgood wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:24
_cerber1 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:23
f1isgood wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 10:28
It should be a slamdunk disqualification if they are to follow what has been done these regulations. If they don't do disqualification, I will have interesting things to say.....
I'm curious, did you write the same thing after Verstappen rammed Russell in Barcelona? He should have been given a 10-second stop-and-go and four penalty points, but in the end he only got 10 seconds and three penalty points, which allowed him to compete in Canada and score points in Spain.
Good bait, but technical infringements are straightforward.
It doesn't take a genius to recognize when a driver is deliberately colliding with an opponent. And the FIA ​​acknowledged this in its document.

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_cerber1 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:32
f1isgood wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:24
_cerber1 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:23


I'm curious, did you write the same thing after Verstappen rammed Russell in Barcelona? He should have been given a 10-second stop-and-go and four penalty points, but in the end he only got 10 seconds and three penalty points, which allowed him to compete in Canada and score points in Spain.
Good bait, but technical infringements are straightforward.
It doesn't take a genius to recognize when a driver is deliberately colliding with an opponent. And the FIA ​​acknowledged this in its document.
Are you really arguing that since they didn't give Max 4 penalty points in Barcelona and 10 second stop n go, they should let the plankwear breach by McLaren slide ? Or just expressing frustration ?

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Slam dunk DSQ if it’s measured under.
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On F1 app, standings updated as DSQs are approved.

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venkyhere wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:36
Are you really arguing that since they didn't give Max 4 penalty points in Barcelona and 10 second stop n go, they should let the plankwear breach by McLaren slide ? Or just expressing frustration ?
Verstappen's example shows precisely this: not everything always seems obvious.

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Vettel165 wrote:
22 Nov 2025, 23:54
Max to win this race, Norris DNF the gap goes down to 24 points . Game on with 2 races to go, yes I can dream.
I did believe. :D

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So who was playing loose and fast with skid blocks for the last couple of years?

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So the FIA demanded removal by teams of some plank protection measures and now the plank is gone. So how many races has this already been going on.

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Legend.
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