Red Bull RB15

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gandharva
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That's a pretty significant layout change for the front suspension. Maybe they try to emulate the Merc trick suspension with this.

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LuisFeF1 wrote:
25 Sep 2019, 15:28
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/487 ... 8000_o.jpg

Russian GP: New reinforcement for Turning Vanes?
Steering rod but not connected yet?
Goes in that black hose in front of the lower wishbone

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MtthsMlw wrote:
25 Sep 2019, 15:44
LuisFeF1 wrote:
25 Sep 2019, 15:28
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/487 ... 8000_o.jpg

Russian GP: New reinforcement for Turning Vanes?
Steering rod but not connected yet?
Goes in that black hose in front of the lower wishbone
That is the steering rod.
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LuisFeF1 wrote:
25 Sep 2019, 15:28
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Russian GP: New reinforcement for Turning Vanes?
Just looks like the push rod or track rod aren't connected. From the hole it's the track rod.
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It's just the track rod not connected yet :lol:

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nzjrs wrote:
25 Sep 2019, 14:32
ispano6 wrote:
25 Sep 2019, 14:10
If max downforce was the goal and if they still lacked downforce, then they indeed were adding drag. Straight line speed was honestly concerning but probably expected with high df package thinking they can make up time in the corners. Also the fact that they didn't bring parts to be able to go in a different direction seems rather silly. I'm sure they've learned a real good lesson.
I asked already, but I really wonder to what they could be referring when they said they didn't have the parts to change the setup. What is so difficult to transport that they could not bring with them? Considering they typically have parts for 1.5 complete spare cars trackside, does that imply they have another chassis version that is more/less/stiff? or some complete alternative suspension parts that were too heavy to bring with?

Its a fascinating insight IMO.
The way I understood the whole thing is that they simulated the Singapore race, thought that they did not need to put "full/maximum" downforce on the car so brought the slightly below Max DF parts. In hindsight they should have gone fro Max downforce anyway as VER was saying the balance was fine, just missing overall downforce. Probably they realized it to late to either fly in the Max DF package, or even so late that it was Q time already when they found they were lacking.

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PhillipM wrote:
25 Sep 2019, 16:22
It's just the track rod not connected yet :lol:
Oh God!!
That mistake!!
It is the steering bar not mounted yet !!
I'm sorry !!

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LuisFeF1 wrote:
25 Sep 2019, 18:52
PhillipM wrote:
25 Sep 2019, 16:22
It's just the track rod not connected yet :lol:
Oh God!!
That mistake!!
It is the steering bar not mounted yet !!
I'm sorry !!
It's not thtat mad if you remember the twin keels in the 2000s but it's aerodynamically sub-optimal, especially with the Y250.
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Sochi
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Via AMuS
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They had changed the bargeboard profile in Singapore. There is a LuisF1 post in the previous page.

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Manfer wrote:
26 Sep 2019, 15:15
They had changed the bargeboard profile in Singapore. There is a LuisF1 post in the previous page.
Yes. But apparently it is not used for the race.

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More photos from Sochi (via AMuS)
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Pretty bad quality, but in the following photo we get an idea how much space is between engine cover and top cooler
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Some more, very cool detailled AMuS-shots:
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Here we can clearly see the new barge board arrangement:
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