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[mwillems]

Lando cocked up the hairpin on his final lap

He's not been getting the rotation he wants at the hairpin, for most of the weekend.

He was already over 0.2 down at that point, so he just sent it and it did not work.
But yes, same happened in SQ3.

He was down, but that Hairpin is a constant thorn for him this race weekend. Pretty dangerous place to struggle if you can't defend into a hairpin after one of the longest straights in the calendar.

[Jdn1327]

He's not been getting the rotation he wants at the hairpin, for most of the weekend.

He was already over 0.2 down at that point, so he just sent it and it did not work.
But yes, same happened in SQ3.

He was down, but that Hairpin is a constant thorn for him this race weekend. Pretty dangerous place to struggle if you can't defend into a hairpin after one of the longest straights in the calendar.

Why is Lando all of a sudden not good on the brakes? Wasn't that his strong point throughout last season? Have the changed the brake disc material?

[f1isgood]

He was already over 0.2 down at that point, so he just sent it and it did not work.
But yes, same happened in SQ3.

He was down, but that Hairpin is a constant thorn for him this race weekend. Pretty dangerous place to struggle if you can't defend into a hairpin after one of the longest straights in the calendar.

Why is Lando all of a sudden not good on the brakes? Wasn't that his strong point throughout last season? Have the changed the brake disc material?

Different car different traits etc.

[venkyhere]

My read of Lando is :
- amazing skill
- skill deployment is 'mood based'

If he falls into 'oh no' mood after a miss/mistake, it's as if he forgets he is one of the top guys & turns into a midfield driver. He has to become a 'machine' like Max/Lewis etc. Remove emotion from performance.

[CjC]

My read of Lando is :
- amazing skill
- skill deployment is 'mood based'

If he falls into 'oh no' mood after a miss/mistake, it's as if he forgets he is one of the top guys & turns into a midfield driver. He has to become a 'machine' like Max/Lewis etc. Remove emotion from performance.

Good assessment. He’s struggled to get on top of the car all weekend really- it was in his head on Thursday even when he was talking to the media

[mwillems]

I'd been seeing Lando take that final hairpin in a funny line and thinking he's not rotating that, and hearing the same each time from the commentators, I thought little more of it.

I took a look and it turns out I'm wrong, his line is much faster in that final Hairpin, turn 6 is his main struggle. A little bit in turn 3 and turn 11.



As I was saying last week, that Merc is not a bad car at all and is being underestimated, though I doubt that is happening now. Russell has been playing some games I think, helping to get a bit of pressure on Mclaren.

[bananapeel23]

My read of Lando is :
- amazing skill
- skill deployment is 'mood based'

If he falls into 'oh no' mood after a miss/mistake, it's as if he forgets he is one of the top guys & turns into a midfield driver. He has to become a 'machine' like Max/Lewis etc. Remove emotion from performance.

I think another interesting thing is that angry Norris is wildly inconsistent and error prone. Most other top drivers drive better when they are angry, Norris is usually the opposite.

[Emag]

I'd been seeing Lando take that final hairpin in a funny line and thinking he's not rotating that, and hearing the same each time from the commentators, I thought little more of it.

I took a look and it turns out I'm wrong, his line is much faster in that final Hairpin, turn 6 is his main struggle. A little bit in turn 3 and turn 11.

https://i.ibb.co/C37V6Z1k/Landovs-Piastri.png

As I was saying last week, that Merc is not a bad car at all and is being underestimated, though I doubt that is happening now. Russell has been playing some games I think, helping to get a bit of pressure on Mclaren.

A bit of an odd choice for laps, but Oscar significantly improved his hairpin on his final lap. Was a touch slower on S2 and the only reason he was slower there is because he couldn't replicate his T6 from a lap before (so that T6 advantage was not consistent, once again enforcing driver's comments about it being somewhat difficult car).

Lando didn't really have a clear weakness if you piece together his best laps. His problem was that he couldn't piece it all together. Oscar suffered from the same problems to be fair, he just managed to put in a best S3 at the end there to push his advantage further.

The T6 can be considered a fluke. If Oscar had replicated his T6 on his final lap, he would have had a 1:30.5
So the car definitely had quite a bit of pace in it, but none of the drivers was able to consistently get it out of it.

[nitrotech]

Lando doesn't seem to belong to the category of Max, Lewis or George. He simply cannot manage a clean Q3. Throughout his career, this has been an issue. Last time out in Melbourne, he wasted first run and then managed to put together 2nd run. Tomorrow he gets another chance at it, but before that, he has to aggressively jump cars ahead of him in Sprint and take control of lead as early as possible. Oscar would try to do the same thing. I won't be surprised if Oscar jumps Max by turn 2 or 3. Not sure if Lando can do that.

Here we go again!

It wasn't an unfair criticism isn't it? He justified it with another dud in Q3.

[Darth-Piekus]

I would say it is fair if you compare him to Alonso, Hamilton or Verstappen but it is unfair to claim that Russell is on a same level. Lando is so much better as a driver compared to Russell and it is also unfair to critisise him like this considering Lando hasn't been in a championship fight for as long as these drivers.

[Ben1980]

I would say it is fair if you compare him to Alonso, Hamilton or Verstappen but it is unfair to claim that Russell is on a same level. Lando is so much better as a driver compared to Russell and it is also unfair to critisise him like this considering Lando hasn't been in a championship fight for as long as these drivers.

I like Lando. But I don't necessarily think he is much better than Russell.

In reality, I think he, Russell, Leclerc are all in a similar ball park. I think Leclerc has a slightly higher ceiling, but he's been Ferrarid. I am also not sure there is much between them all and Gasly or Albon.

To be fair, you have to be the absolute cream to get in f1 or have a massive potential.

I do think Max is the current stand out, and Lewis while padt his prime is an all time great.

Alonso should have jacked it ages ago.

[Macklaren]

Read the feedback from everyone. Every team and driver is struggling. It's the nature of these cars. It's not about Lando or the MCL39 even. At least we have the pace if they string it all together unlike some other teams

[mwillems]

I'd been seeing Lando take that final hairpin in a funny line and thinking he's not rotating that, and hearing the same each time from the commentators, I thought little more of it.

I took a look and it turns out I'm wrong, his line is much faster in that final Hairpin, turn 6 is his main struggle. A little bit in turn 3 and turn 11.

https://i.ibb.co/C37V6Z1k/Landovs-Piastri.png

As I was saying last week, that Merc is not a bad car at all and is being underestimated, though I doubt that is happening now. Russell has been playing some games I think, helping to get a bit of pressure on Mclaren.

A bit of an odd choice for laps, but Oscar significantly improved his hairpin on his final lap. Was a touch slower on S2 and the only reason he was slower there is because he couldn't replicate his T6 from a lap before (so that T6 advantage was not consistent, once again enforcing driver's comments about it being somewhat difficult car).

Lando didn't really have a clear weakness if you piece together his best laps. His problem was that he couldn't piece it all together. Oscar suffered from the same problems to be fair, he just managed to put in a best S3 at the end there to push his advantage further.

The T6 can be considered a fluke. If Oscar had replicated his T6 on his final lap, he would have had a 1:30.5
So the car definitely had quite a bit of pace in it, but none of the drivers was able to consistently get it out of it.

Because they were set at the same time in the same track conditions. Point I mean to make is he isn't slow at the hairpin, even if his line is odd. It wasn't a commentary on Piastri's lap, just the fact that Lando's line at the final hairpin is fine whichever Piastri lap you compare it to.

[billamend]

People keep over criticizing Lando, and he keeps beating team mate after team mate… Every year (exception to 2022, that car was awful) he scores more points.

[bauc]

Great job by PIA on securing his first ever pole position in F1, mega 2 laps in Q3. Also good recovery from NOR who seems to struggle all weekend long.

Hoping for 1-2 win tomorrow.