Whatever's cooking, it better be quick and action oriented. Looks like Aston will start falling off from here on.
What???
Is there a radio message confirming that Lance was even told anything?Sevach wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:40I think Charles had him, some laps earlier Alonso brought the gap down to DRS range, Ferrari told Leclerc he was clear to push and the gap went to 3s plus, at the end Leclerc was probably cruising having the podium well on hand.
Alonso trying to help Lance might've caused him problems, shortly after the tip about brake balance, Lance missed his braking and ended up overtaken by Hamilton.KimiRai wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:04Not sure if Leclerc's tires really fell off or he just lifted on the last lap on purpose. Almost perfect execution by Fernando and great tyre deg that brings home a p4 on a weaker track.
What a difference from a teammate last year to one who doesn't wreck the races of both for his own benefit. Thank you to Lance. Either that, or egos are better managed by the team. Whichever way it is let's hope it stays that way and the team spirit between Stroll and Fernando is maintained. Last time the words team spirit were used, Fernando won two world championships...
Miami and Imola which should bring updates
Kinda cool but i don't know if it helped.
Alonso and his engineer discussed tyre temps and did all check 11-12 laps before the end around 3.3 seconds behind LEC. Alonso said, ok numbers are good, let's go, and he started pushing. He did a purple first sector (his first in the race) but at that lap he did a mistake in the last sector lost time and came to around 4 seconds behind LEC.
is there a timeline for upgrades?NAPI10 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 17:00I was expecting high tire deg on Ferraries but Charles drove beautifully. Not a bad weekend for AMs; I was not expecting Lance to complete the race after that shunt.AR23 is built like a tank
Next weekend is normal which will help AM to get back in rhythm. Guage new upgrades & get the set-up right.
Plus, high temperatures will suit AMR23 perfectly.
It seems they are moving away from 'Big' upgrades; the strategy is to get small ones every other race. Upgrades for this race(other than RW) were pushed off next due to a busy weekend.Venturiation wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 17:03is there a timeline for upgrades?NAPI10 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 17:00I was expecting high tire deg on Ferraries but Charles drove beautifully. Not a bad weekend for AMs; I was not expecting Lance to complete the race after that shunt.AR23 is built like a tank
Next weekend is normal which will help AM to get back in rhythm. Guage new upgrades & get the set-up right.
Plus, high temperatures will suit AMR23 perfectly.
i remember they said it would come very late in the 2nd half of the season
Good see him gel so well with the team & the entire team (including Lawrence) looks to him to take this team to the next level.Contrary to a lot of ppl predicting team sabotage to favor Lance.Bisonas wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 17:23At this point i want to point out something.
I always have the onboard of Alonso in a tablet with a Bluetooth headset in one ear hearing everything he and his engineer have to say.
The way they communicate is TOP TOP level.
They way they are dealing with tire temps break temps and checks, the way they are dealing with switch changes on the steering wheel, they way they are discussing an issue and try to solve it, or how and where can tire management can be done better, the efficiency of all the info his engineer is given him, data wise and procedure wise, guys seriously now.. is Phenomenal.
Nothing compared to what he had in Alpine.
Even the way his engineer is suggesting things to him, how calm, how polite and how efficiently is doing it, giving him options within the race, Not forcing him, not telling him, just suggesting him, is amazing.
In Alpine guys, no offence, his engineer some times was afraid to even speak to him because many times he knew what he had to say, Alonso wasn't going to like it. And the communication they had, was far less than what they are having or discussing now.
kudos to his engineer (Chris Cronin i think) and the whole team of people behind him.
I can't even imagine this. The only real "issues" that Racing point had in the past was that they were still a small, underbudgeted, and chaotic team, so they could only build upgrades for 1 car and Lance tended to benefit.NAPI10 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 18:03Good see him gel so well with the team & the entire team (including Lawrence) looks to him to take this team to the next level.Contrary to a lot of ppl predicting team sabotage to favor Lance.Bisonas wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 17:23At this point i want to point out something.
I always have the onboard of Alonso in a tablet with a Bluetooth headset in one ear hearing everything he and his engineer have to say.
The way they communicate is TOP TOP level.
They way they are dealing with tire temps break temps and checks, the way they are dealing with switch changes on the steering wheel, they way they are discussing an issue and try to solve it, or how and where can tire management can be done better, the efficiency of all the info his engineer is given him, data wise and procedure wise, guys seriously now.. is Phenomenal.
Nothing compared to what he had in Alpine.
Even the way his engineer is suggesting things to him, how calm, how polite and how efficiently is doing it, giving him options within the race, Not forcing him, not telling him, just suggesting him, is amazing.
In Alpine guys, no offence, his engineer some times was afraid to even speak to him because many times he knew what he had to say, Alonso wasn't going to like it. And the communication they had, was far less than what they are having or discussing now.
kudos to his engineer (Chris Cronin i think) and the whole team of people behind him.
According to Krack: Imola, Montreal, Silverstone.Venturiation wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 17:03is there a timeline for upgrades?
i remember they said it would come very late in the 2nd half of the season
Yeah, but we don't know if Alsonso's comment was passed on to Stroll or if Stroll did change his balance. Seriously, at F1 driver levels I would think blindly following advice like that is unlikely; each driver is in their car and understands what is happening and reacts to that. You have to have confidence you know what you're doing; look at Michael Andretti at McLaren - I've seen footage where his engineer is dismissively telling him what to do re braking..... Didn't work out so well.....Sevach wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:40I think Charles had him, some laps earlier Alonso brought the gap down to DRS range, Ferrari told Leclerc he was clear to push and the gap went to 3s plus, at the end Leclerc was probably cruising having the podium well on hand.
Alonso trying to help Lance might've caused him problems, shortly after the tip about brake balance, Lance missed his braking and ended up overtaken by Hamilton.KimiRai wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 15:04Not sure if Leclerc's tires really fell off or he just lifted on the last lap on purpose. Almost perfect execution by Fernando and great tyre deg that brings home a p4 on a weaker track.
What a difference from a teammate last year to one who doesn't wreck the races of both for his own benefit. Thank you to Lance. Either that, or egos are better managed by the team. Whichever way it is let's hope it stays that way and the team spirit between Stroll and Fernando is maintained. Last time the words team spirit were used, Fernando won two world championships...
Miami and Imola which should bring updates
Kinda cool but i don't know if it helped.
Obviously he isn't to blame, it's just something that occured to me and i thought it was curious/funny, Alonso makes a suggestion to help Lance over the radio, Lance immediately botches a corner and loses the position.