No Concorde, No problem? Really?

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Hail22 wrote:P.S Whoever -1 my opinion post that's very mature that once again an abuse of power has occurred on this forum, rest assured moderators will be informed.
It´s inevitable when the select few knows it can´t happen to them. I´m sure that when everyone can down-vote, certain people will be less trigger happy.
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Cam wrote:
richard_leeds wrote:The benefit of the FIA is that it can act as an emollient and arbiter for all the bickering. Without the FIA the sport would be even more commercialised with even more gimmicks and less respect for the heritage and culture of motorsport.
Yes, it's like a government - it has rules (laws), income (taxes), paid people to help at events (civil servants) etc, and in theory it's there solely to help the population (teams in this instance). The FIA is now nothing more than a dictatorship that fails to act to want the people want. Sure, it's keeping the masses in check - but with force - and it's also keeping the sport back while demanding more money for the privilege. Maybe it's time for a revolution. A new government, a new system. If countries can do it, so can motorsport, don't you think?
richard_leeds wrote:The promoter would dictate all the sporting and tech regs for the benefit of a few big money franchises. It would be the motorsport equivalent of WWF.
In this instance the promoter would be the teams - so if the teams want to go that road, let them - it's their money, their cars and their show. All we're doing is letting them decide how to proceed - without 3rd party, selfish, interests standing in the way (and taking their profits). The teams want to promote their brands and further their own industry - giving them the free-for-all to do it would see a huge focus on the cars, which is what we all want.

I would strongly suggest that no top team or manufacture wants to invest in weird tyres, gimmicky DRS systems, stepped noses or anything else that doesn't directly improve racing and allow them to generate further income off the track by utilising their innovations for real world and other motorsport industries.

I'd trust the top four teams to unite and deliver this experience before I'd trust Bernie and the FIA to make it happen. That's where the conflict of interest lies and where the sport will never blossom while it remains.
Don't you view a select number of teams competing in the sport as well as running the sport as a conflict of interest? And what happens when Red Bull and Mercedes pull the plug on the F1 operation? How does the sport manage itself then?

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Cold Fussion wrote: Don't you view a select number of teams competing in the sport as well as running the sport as a conflict of interest?
No, because the teams have a common interest - to promote racing, sell sponsorship, sell their services outside the sport, and for manufacturers - sell cars. It would be like athletes creating a 'sports administration' entity to handle all the athletes of a group, for example. The organisation makes the deal, the teams control the organisation.

Bernie has a conflict of interest because he wants to pocket the most amount of cash - regardless how that effects the teams (see HRT going bankrupt). With all the teams in control of the money, they decide how it's split and how much of it is split. Media rights are just one revenue stream for teams.

F1 is valued at $10B. Thats 10 billion, my friends. How does a team go bankrupt with all that cash.......simply, because they aren't getting it.
Cold Fussion wrote: And what happens when Red Bull and Mercedes pull the plug on the F1 operation? How does the sport manage itself then?
Who knows. But one solution (that I can think of) is a type of shares system. When you want to join F1, your entry fee essentially buys you shares. There's only so many shares and they're fixed. You can only sell the shares to practicing teams, when one team goes, the extra shares go back equally to the remaining teams. As above, you have to have an organisation to handle it. Let that handle all the rights, money, organisation etc - this way the teams dictate - not outsiders.

Would the above example work, I have no idea. You need smarter people than me to figure this out. But there is definitely a better way than what we have now.

What would you suggest?
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