Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez (Mexico GP)

[wesley123]

Ah so it stayed pretty much the same. That's a really welcome sight(Together with the Red Bull Ring) with all the Tilkedrome's on the calendar

[astracrazy]

i really hope f1 goes there, the classic tracks are so much better

at least it seems slightly more than a bluff from bernie if charlie is there inspecting the track

[ecapox]

Not much run off area for some of those high speed turns....and not much space to BUILD run off areas. Im sceptical, but hopeful there is a solution.

Lat: 19°24'33.71"N
Lon: 99° 5'39.24"W

If anyone wants to Google Earth it. Last pic was 5/4/2013

[ESPImperium]

Really, really glad to have Mexico back, I think there will be lots of things dont to the track, a few changes here, a chichane put just coming out of the Esses in order to reduce speeds going into the final Peraltada where there will be minimal run off. The track will essentially be a 4.150km street track once all the additions and upgrades have been done. The FIA have to rubber stamp a change in regulation for F1 before the race goes ahead, the minimum lap distance at present for a track is 4.3Km, the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez is 300m short, but i think once all is said and done, it will be 4.1Km+, so FIA regs will change to 4.1Km.

A welcome addition as it is one of those tracks like the Red Bull Ring, Hungaroring, Interlagos and Montreal that will test the drivers traffic management skills, a skill that has been sadly lost in F1 over the past decade witch has lead to a watering down of the blue flag rules in my opinion.

Track isnt a Tilkedrome, but it is Tilke who will be carrying out upgrades to track.

One thing is glaring for upgrading, a of standard Pit and Paddock area. The most costly and time consuming part of things.

[Gaz.]

Really, really glad to have Mexico back, I think there will be lots of things dont to the track, a few changes here, a chichane put just coming out of the Esses in order to reduce speeds going into the final Peraltada where there will be minimal run off. The track will essentially be a 4.150km street track once all the additions and upgrades have been done. The FIA have to rubber stamp a change in regulation for F1 before the race goes ahead, the minimum lap distance at present for a track is 4.3Km, the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez is 300m short, but i think once all is said and done, it will be 4.1Km+, so FIA regs will change to 4.1Km.

A welcome addition as it is one of those tracks like the Red Bull Ring, Hungaroring, Interlagos and Montreal that will test the drivers traffic management skills, a skill that has been sadly lost in F1 over the past decade witch has lead to a watering down of the blue flag rules in my opinion.

Track isnt a Tilkedrome, but it is Tilke who will be carrying out upgrades to track.

One thing is glaring for upgrading, a of standard Pit and Paddock area. The most costly and time consuming part of things.

Could they not use the extension past the hairpin at turn 6?

Also couldn't they line the Peraltada with SAFER barriers? It can't be much worse than the last turns of Brazil or Korea?

I think Korea will be dropped, the organisers had to renegotiate with FOM to host this year's race so perhaps FOM will take the opportunity to ditch Korea from 2014? It has had spectator figures of 80,000 and over for race day so similar to Catalunya and fairly popular but it is still in the middle of nowhere and access is not so good.

[hairy_scotsman]

I don't think they'll try to slow the cars to use the Peraltada as-is or that they'll try to find a different barrier solution. I just don;t think the FIA will allow it on a "new" gp or in this case one that's being run at a track that's being refurbished specifically for F1. There just isn't enough runoff there to make them happy with cars running at the speeds F1 cars can attain even with little to no approach.

I believe what they'll be forced to do is similar to what IndyCar did the last time there. I just don't think they have many realistic options to the contrary. Rumors from yesterday seem to support this.

As for a rule-change for the lap distance at the Autodromo, isn't the A1 ring even shorter?

[SectorOne]

I have to say i love the barriers along pit straight. A throw back to ancient times.

[GitanesBlondes]

Onboard lap in the Radical SR3.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkyTWmAD38[/youtube]

[ESPImperium]

Really, really glad to have Mexico back, I think there will be lots of things dont to the track, a few changes here, a chichane put just coming out of the Esses in order to reduce speeds going into the final Peraltada where there will be minimal run off. The track will essentially be a 4.150km street track once all the additions and upgrades have been done. The FIA have to rubber stamp a change in regulation for F1 before the race goes ahead, the minimum lap distance at present for a track is 4.3Km, the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez is 300m short, but i think once all is said and done, it will be 4.1Km+, so FIA regs will change to 4.1Km.

A welcome addition as it is one of those tracks like the Red Bull Ring, Hungaroring, Interlagos and Montreal that will test the drivers traffic management skills, a skill that has been sadly lost in F1 over the past decade witch has lead to a watering down of the blue flag rules in my opinion.

Track isnt a Tilkedrome, but it is Tilke who will be carrying out upgrades to track.

One thing is glaring for upgrading, a of standard Pit and Paddock area. The most costly and time consuming part of things.

Could they not use the extension past the hairpin at turn 6?

Also couldn't they line the Peraltada with SAFER barriers? It can't be much worse than the last turns of Brazil or Korea?

I think Korea will be dropped, the organisers had to renegotiate with FOM to host this year's race so perhaps FOM will take the opportunity to ditch Korea from 2014? It has had spectator figures of 80,000 and over for race day so similar to Catalunya and fairly popular but it is still in the middle of nowhere and access is not so good.

Probably use the extension at Turn 6, making this a secton of the track like the Hairpin at Abu Dhabi where theres that fiddly wee chichane before it. And a Variante Retifillo style chichane about 250m out from the Peraltada will probably be enough, that will make the Peraltada like Curva Grande at Monza to an extent. They will probably have a short run off of about 4 to 5 meters with SAFER or TecPRO barriers there as well. They could extend the track into the tennis courts at the Esses.

Heres a blank copy:


And what i did a while back:

[Cold Fussion]

Looking at the senna onboard, it looks as though the track would be pretty easy in a modern f1 car, especially the back half of the esses since he was nearly flat all the way through.

[timbo]

Looking at the senna onboard, it looks as though the track would be pretty easy in a modern f1 car, especially the back half of the esses since he was nearly flat all the way through.

Yeah, in a modern F1 car it would be a very high speed circuit. But next year with less downforce in the back and more torque from engine it may not be that easy.

[Cold Fussion]

Looking at the senna onboard, it looks as though the track would be pretty easy in a modern f1 car, especially the back half of the esses since he was nearly flat all the way through.

Yeah, in a modern F1 car it would be a very high speed circuit. But next year with less downforce in the back and more torque from engine it may not be that easy.

The power will vary from being a little bit more than now to a fair amount less, probably roughly equal to a 1990 v10 when you have no ERS left, and they'll still have a lot more downforce than in 1990.

[Nuvolari_the_legend]

I think it will be great to see the Mexican GP back on the calender, altough it can't think of a Mexican GP when the circuit is in this state. I think they are going to place new barriers, a chicane at the straight between the esses and peraltade and that they are going to renovate things like the tribunes and curbestones. Also the pitlane is going to be a bit renovated. If in 2015 the circuit is still on the calender, they probably will change the asphalt aswell.

Talking about Hermanos Rodriguez comming back on the callender, what about the French GP. Is Paul Ricard also comming back and is it in 2014?

[Belatti]

Whats wrong with the actual layout? They should leave it as it is, its fun to drive the esses in the sim, a real challenge with the 1991 cars.

I dont see why someone was guessing a 65 sec. lap based in the 1991 Nigel Mansell´s pole of 1:16.

[Nuvolari_the_legend]

Whats wrong with the actual layout? They should leave it as it is, its fun to drive the esses in the sim, a real challenge with the 1991 cars.
I dont see why someone was guessing a 65 sec. lap based in the 1991 Nigel Mansell´s pole of 1:16.

I dont think there is anything wrong with the current layout, I actualy realy like it, but the laptimes will just be to short. Vettel probably has to lap the Marrusia's and Caterham's five times or so.