Phrase of the day:'Alonso stop whining'

[manchild]

Reason for Kimi being sometimes faster in 2005 was bad reliablity of Mercedes engine. Yes, you've read it right - that engine was fastest because it wasn't limited enough to be able to last.

So when Kimi was quicker in quali or in race and had engine problmes that doesn't mean that he'd be faster if his engine lasted as long Alonso's (whole weekend, two races). Any team can over-rev engine for show-off in practice, quali or one part of the race and appear "fastest" but F1 is not drag racing but endurance.

Well I can't really see anything that says either Alonso or Renault complained of lack of grip.

Fifth and seventh are certainly not the grid positions we had hoped for this afternoon, which is surprising as the balance of the car did not seem too bad for either driver. Rather, it was a question of grip today. Our tyres have started working better as the temperatures have risen this weekend, and a continuation of that trend tomorrow will certainly help our chances in the race.

[Hudsonhawk.]

Manchild.

Would the same situation apply when Alonso joins Mclaren......or will Alonso (who strangely isnt so fast at the moment ) be able to do more with the Mclaren Merc than Rappingmen?

Peace brother
HH

[andyF1]

Well I personally think nowadays it's 80% the car / engine package and 20% the drivers ability / consistency!

No driver however talented can win races without a good car / engine but on the other hand no car will win without a good / smooth / talented driver.

You cannot even really start to compare how Alonso will do next year with Mclaren with how Kimi does this year as basically it will be a totally different car / engine package!

All I know is that Alonso (as with Schumacher in previous years) looks after his car and can make it perform lap after lap. If that car is reliable then he will finish in the top 3 every race.
Also every track is different and suits different teams.
A lot has been said in the paddock about Ferraris return to form being part car improvement and part Bridgestone tyre improvement.
I know a few experts that could talk for hours about the relative merits of each track to teams / tyre combinations.

What I would like to see is some close racing like GP2.

[Hudsonhawk.]

What I would like to see is some close racing like GP2.

So watch GP2.....!!!

[pyry]

these percentages are intresting consept. what do you mean by car 80% and driver 20%? i remember ron dennis once stating that "if a football player does 99 or 100 goals, its irrelevant and whichever he does hes considered excellent, but if the car is one percent slower(about 1.5secs generally) its considered a failure". i think that you have to improve a great deal more than 1% to get 1% off the time. a generallysation of this: a 150hp car can get from 0-100 in about 9 seconds, but to half that you need at least 400 hp.
so by 20% do you mean that out of the lap time the driver can influence a +- 20% directly proportional difference? or do you mean that in a set frame of how near to the limit you are, a individual driver can drive 20% closer to the limit in comparison to for instance his teammate? does this then mean that he's 20% better, when the speed difference might be as small as 0.2 seconds?

ps.i hope ciro is happier with this post. with the race over, i need not comment on alonso anymore, alonso spoke for himself

[[EDF]Fx]

Ciro Pabón: Your reasoning looked good until you mentioned religious belief. To a large part of Europe religious people look really stupid.

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