Cosworth to get higher rev limit?

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jesterdog
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meves wrote:
jesterdog wrote:My point being, it ain't all engine that wins the race. If your chassis ain't setup, all the motor in the world won't get you to the checkered first...right?

How far off can Cosworth be anyway?
....snip... The issue is it would be false advantage given by Max to justify a single engine. Now is that good for the sport?

In principle, no, it is not good for the sport.

I look forward to a diversity on engine manufacturers in F1 and would hate to see a move to one engine provider.

It would not be fair to give Cosworth an extra advantage. How much is that 1k rpm worth?

If I was Cosworth, I would cry too if I thought I could get an advantage!!!!

timbo
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Now as FOTA seemed to call it off, I wonder whether Cosworth is up to supply engines to the whole field? Do they have enough facilities? With engine for 2 races, with 20 cars and 16 races it is 160 engines!

meves
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jesterdog wrote: It would not be fair to give Cosworth an extra advantage. How much is that 1k rpm worth?
Well considering they are limited to 18k at the moment and Cosworth engines wouldn't be limited they could run to maybe 20,500 or 21,000rpm, so as a complete guess 70-100hp. Enough to make a difference, but comment from and engine person would be useful!

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I think it's easily overseen what the intention is here. The FIA actually seem to want, that everybody operates under a budget cap. If that's achieved the rules are the same for everyone. The planned restrictions are actually rather slim. From a technical point of view this could indeed be very interesting, because then it isn't the big money that makes the cars faster, but the genius and skill of the designers/mechanics. So basically this is really not the pending demise of the pinnacle of motorsport.

The multiple ruleset thing only was included as a compromise to the manufacturers who didn't want to operate under a budget cap for whatever reason (not gonna question it, it's probably company policies so they have to explain themselves to their shareholders, not to us). And the rpm advantage for the Cosworth engine is to be seen in this 2 ruleset environment. As I said in the first paragraph the restrictions for teams under the budget cap are actually far less restricting. The important thing is though, that the tender in late 2008 also included something about a price for the whole championship package. This essentially means Cosworth have to obey to a budget cap themselves, because they need to offer the engines at a fixed price. So they cannot develop the engines like it was still 2004.

Using the Cosworth example as an excuse not to agree to operate in F1 under a budget cap is lame, more even, it's an antagonism imho.

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The question of how to homologate the Cosworth engine may be completely moot for two reasons.

1. There may be no other engines but Cosworth in the series.

2. If there are any other engines some bigger issues will have to be solved first. The teams managed to sort out the question of how to equalize the Renault engine with the FIA. Once they are prepared to do business again I reckon they will sort this one as well.
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