2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Bill wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 22:18
At no point did the redbull look like a car that could challenge for high positions not in practice or quali q1 even during prac Max was aborting laps a number of times
There was only 1 relevant practice session (FP2) and Max also had the brake issues at that time. FP3 was in conditions that least suit the Red Bull. The cars are very sensitive. There may be a point in the race tomorrow (towards the end) when the car comes to life on the hard tires as we have seen in the past. Track should be slightly cooler tomorrow and will be more rubbered in.

Max is the only one of the top cars with 2 sets of hard tires, which was the strategy that most used last year.
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"All weekend it has been difficult, just struggling on brake feel and stopping power basically. Besides that just also just very difficult grip.

"Now, I feel that maybe the tyre grip that we are getting out of the car and that's why also set-up wise we have thrown the car around a lot and nothing really seems to give you a clear direction. So I guess that also shows we are struggling also with other things.

"I have no idea how they [the extra set of hard tyres he has saved for the race] will perform. I think it will be quite high deg but also on the hard tyre you have quite low mechanical grip so naturally you will slide a bit more and I have no idea how that will work out. But at least it's an option to have and then we'll see what happens with it."Max

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Tsunoda had some "good" laps and some very bad ones.
Another indication of the inconsistency Max was talking about, probably.

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At this point I think people should stop thinking about Norris, it's Piastri that is looking the real threat.

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Is there any onboard footage from Max's lap?
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Rikhart wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 23:00
At this point I think people should stop thinking about Norris, it's Piastri that is looking the real threat.
I mean, realistically I think people should stop thinking about the championship altogether. It's a massive long shot. The Mclaren duo aren't the best, but their car advantage isn't gonna be surmountable over such a long season. They are always the fastest car, all the time, everywhere.

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Seanspeed wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 00:47
Rikhart wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 23:00
At this point I think people should stop thinking about Norris, it's Piastri that is looking the real threat.
I mean, realistically I think people should stop thinking about the championship altogether. It's a massive long shot. The Mclaren duo aren't the best, but their car advantage isn't gonna be surmountable over such a long season. They are always the fastest car, all the time, everywhere.
We haven't seen the real RB21 (Rd 7). Until Rd 7 proves otherwise, there are possibilities. Mclaren updates have to work. Rob Marshal went from Red Bull to Mclaren and now the Mclaren is becoming difficult and only 1 driver can drive it. Sound familiar? :lol:
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This is not the real rb21

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Seanspeed wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 00:47
Rikhart wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 23:00
At this point I think people should stop thinking about Norris, it's Piastri that is looking the real threat.
I mean, realistically I think people should stop thinking about the championship altogether. It's a massive long shot. The Mclaren duo aren't the best, but their car advantage isn't gonna be surmountable over such a long season. They are always the fastest car, all the time, everywhere.
No need to throw the towel. Its a long season, we have seen in season power balance shifts in various ground effect seasons. A mechanical DNF or significant driver error will have a big impact too. Piastri and Norris might develop some beef too. Alot can happen.

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To be fair, I saw zero chance of winning the WDC after Australia, 2022. Ferrari seemed faster and more reliable and Leclerc already had like 45 points or so advantage. Then it turned out to be almost too comfortable at the end.

It is ok to acknowledge that chances are heavily against Max, but there is no reason to completely give up just yet.

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In hindsight, the team already made clear that there would be a struggle until Rd 7 so there's no reason to have different expectations from week to week when it's the same car from the start of the year. Winning in Japan made it seem like it was better than it was, but Red Bull always said these would be tough races. Nothing is expected to change meaningfully until Rd 7.
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AR3-GP wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 03:38
In hindsight, the team already made clear that there would be a struggle until Rd 7 so there's no reason to have different expectations from week to week when it's the same car from the start of the year. Winning in Japan made it seem like it was better than it was, but Red Bull always said these would be tough races. Nothing is expected to change meaningfully until Rd 7.
Imola and Barcelona will be the 2 key races to draw some conclusions for the season.
Interestingly they are on the 2 far ends of a triple-header. With Monaco between the two as a meaningless filler.(meaningless from pure performance point of view)

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Piastir doing well now is a blessing for you RB fans. He's a long way back behind Max and Lando. He's basically going to steal points from Lando and ensure Max and Lando stay withing a handfull of points from each other.
I still think Lando is the better quality driver and will have the better season.
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The two McLaren drivers taking points off each other is going to help Max. But they need upgrades and/or the flexi wing clamp down helping them.

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I don't know the details of parc-ferme' rules, but something like brakes, will they be allowed to be replaced/repaired (if at all it is going to solve the issue, that is) ?